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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 09:54 AM
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Anyone know who makes a .042" or .043" compressed head gasket for a 99 LS1? I'm putting a set of milled AFR's on soon. I have a set of .052" compressed stock gaskets for installation. What I would like to do is put together the h/c package assembled and check my p/v clearance and if adequate install a .042" or .043", and if not stay with the .052" gaskets. Right now I have the heads milled .010" and with the .052" gasket I should be close to a 63cc combustion chamber vol. I'm using a 224/228 .581/.588 112+2 or +4 cam (I'll check for best fit then set the advance). I'd like to get the tightest quench but unfortunately can't keep the car where the lift is for more than a few days so I don't have time to assemble, check, remove, disassemble, re-mill, and reassemble. I also have the Isky piston notchers but I really, really don't want to go there unless I absolutely have to (inadequate p/v with .052" gaskets).
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 10:12 AM
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Cometics .043 + .030 (62cc) = ~11:1 CR as per Tony Mamo (AFR)
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 11:45 AM
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Cometics .043 + .030 (62cc) = ~11:1 CR as per Tony Mamo (AFR)
I'm looking around and AFR recommends these. Fel-Pro#1041, Cometic #6847 Cometic #6846. I can't find the Cometic gaskets, but I have found the Fel-Pro. It's a .041" that fits my requirement. However, the bore size is 4.135" and I have a stock bore that 'should' use a 3.910" gasket. Is AFR telling me I can use the bigger bore gasket? My knee-jerk reaction is to not use it.
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 12:37 PM
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You are correct!! I goofed

This is part of the PM he sent me:

I would do it differently with an .040 gasket and a 62 cc chamber....provides the same CR and better (tighter) "quench", which is a good thing.
So felpro would be good.
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You are correct!! I goofed

This is part of the PM he sent me:


So felpro would be good.
But what about the bore size? The part# 1041 states a 4.135 bore, clearly not a stock bore. I haven't been able to find a Fel-Pro with a 3.910 bore...
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On another thread, Tony mentionned having thin cometic gaskets in stock.
From the AFR site it mentions "Cometic AFR # 6846".
This might be the one.
Call Tony and find out.
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
On another thread, Tony mentionned having thin cometic gaskets in stock.
From the AFR site it mentions "Cometic AFR # 6846".
This might be the one.
Call Tony and find out.
I'll check that out. I'll give AFR a call tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by ArKay99
I'll check that out. I'll give AFR a call tomorrow.
BTW, I'm going with AFR's too. Could you post if that are the gaskets needed? It would be good info to have on the forum's data banks.
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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 10:01 AM
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BTW, I'm going with AFR's too. Could you post if that are the gaskets needed? It would be good info to have on the forum's data banks.
No problem. I've emailed Tony and will post his suggestion when I see it.
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felpro 9284pt for stock bore.
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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 08:42 PM
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Here is what I discussed with Tony@AFR. Optimum head mill is .024 for 62cc combustion chamber for 11:1 c/r using a .040 gasket. One thing to keep in mind is this is on the hairy edge for detonation. They are using a Cometic gasket that is a custom MLS with 3.910 bore and .040 compressed thickness. The cam that was used was a 224/228 .581/.588 @114. I didn't ask about the advance. With that mill and gasket thickness p/v was as close as could be reliable. I'm using a 112lsa+2 and will try a +4 install but I may be close due the tighter ICL of the 112@+4. So I'm leaving the .010 mill and checking p/v and if I have the room I'll mill them the extra .014. If not I should only leave ~5hp on the table. I'll be running 64.34cc combustion chambers and quench should still be good with that gasket.
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im running a cometic .043 gasket 3.905 bore, 5.7 heads milled .020, and pistons out the hole .010; quench is .033. my SCR is a little higher then 11.1 though
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quench is .033
This is pushing it a bit much. Any decent racer's shortblock assembly handbook will typically spec out a minimum 0.035" - 0.045" for use with good aftermarket connecting rods because your stockers will stretch too much at high RPM! Might want to think twice about this one
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This is pushing it a bit much. Any decent racer's shortblock assembly handbook will typically spec out a minimum 0.035" - 0.045" for use with good aftermarket connecting rods because your stockers will stretch too much at high RPM! Might want to think twice about this one

its on a forged 347 w/ arp bolts and studs through out.
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im running a cometic .043 gasket 3.905 bore, 5.7 heads milled .020, and pistons out the hole .010; quench is .033. my SCR is a little higher then 11.1 though
pistons out the hole... That's my unknown until I get the heads off and mic them. That is definitely going to be a factor with stock decks. Are yours .010 out due to cleanup/squareing? BTW, I heard that cam you are running. Lot's of overlap there... DCR much different than SCR
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Originally Posted by ArKay99
pistons out the hole... That's my unknown until I get the heads off and mic them. That is definitely going to be a factor with stock decks. Are yours .010 out due to cleanup/squareing? BTW, I heard that cam you are running. Lot's of overlap there...
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im running custom diamond pistions with a CH of 1.309. and are you talking about my old tr230? my custom cam for the new setup aint ground yet
There was a sound byte about 2 weeks ago that you posted of a scarey sounding cam. I thought that is what you are running.
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There was a sound byte about 2 weeks ago that you posted of a scarey sounding cam. I thought that is what you are running.
nah, that wasnt mine, it was an old T1 through a cutout.

my DCR should come out to ~9.1
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Just wanted to let everyone know that we are a stocking dealer for Cometic! I have 0.030" & 0.040" (3.910 bore) in stock ready to ship. $63.75 per side is what they go for. Let me know if I can help!!
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Originally Posted by z-ya
felpro 9284pt for stock bore.
What is the compressed thickness of this gasket???

Where would I get it????



***EDIT***

I found Felpro's tech line number... it is .054 compressed, .060 uncompressed....

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