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Old Sep 28, 2004 | 12:34 AM
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I want a big *** cam that pulls like a mother f*cker. My tr224 actually makes decent power at 403 rwhp but I want a bigger cam. I know these cams will make good power but what cam would be better. See mods in sig. The magic stick is on a 113 so it might be alittle more streetable but the trex makes CRAZY power. Pros and cons of both please!!
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Old Sep 28, 2004 | 12:56 AM
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Just cause cam X is on a 113 and the other is on a 110 dosent mean alot. You have to break it down and find out how many degrees of overlap the cam has. for example a 224/224 on a 112 has the same overlap as a 228/228 on a 114. Also, do you plan to get heads, and if you dont plan on changing cams will it work with the heads. How far are you willing to spin that motor and will it hold. That T-Rex is gona like the 7k mark, so you might want to upgrade rod bolts too.
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Old Sep 28, 2004 | 01:02 AM
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Just cause cam X is on a 113 and the other is on a 110 dosent mean alot. You have to break it down and find out how many degrees of overlap the cam has. for example a 224/224 on a 112 has the same overlap as a 228/228 on a 114. Also, do you plan to get heads, and if you dont plan on changing cams will it work with the heads. How far are you willing to spin that motor and will it hold. That T-Rex is gona like the 7k mark, so you might want to upgrade rod bolts too.
Ya, I prolly wont spin it past 6800-6900. Its set at 6800. I wont have heads for a while. Thats why I want to get the most power out of a big cam. Then maybe down the road Ill get heads or go forced induction
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Old Sep 28, 2004 | 01:05 AM
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You'll definitely need to spin your motor higher then you want to with the T-Rex to get the most out of. The MS3 can make some insane power as well, won't need to spin to 7k to get there, but close. These huge cams will need the higher rpms either way. They all do.
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Originally Posted by WildBills WS6
I want a big *** cam that pulls like a mother f*cker. My tr224 actually makes decent power at 403 rwhp but I want a bigger cam. I know these cams will make good power but what cam would be better. See mods in sig. The magic stick is on a 113 so it might be alittle more streetable but the trex makes CRAZY power. Pros and cons of both please!!
your car is a good candidate for that trex cam since its an m6 and you mentioned not getting aftermarket heads for awhile.remember gotta spin this cam way up there.and more gearing.
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your car is a good candidate for that trex cam since its an m6 and you mentioned not getting aftermarket heads for awhile.remember gotta spin this cam way up there.and more gearing.
I have 4.11's right now.
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you've said you prolly won't spin it past 6800-6900rpms...which is where this cam makes some serious power. Fireball shifts at 7k with this cam. thats the one thing that keeps me hesitant from suggesting you get this cam. unless you change your mind about revvin it to the higer rpms. bump your rev limiter to 7200 and shift @ 6800-6900, and you'll love her. get some ARP rod bolts just to be safe
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Have you thought about a the futural 230/232, it makes good power and you wont have to go to an insane amount of RPM.
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Originally Posted by stang killer
Have you thought about a the futural 230/232, it makes good power and you wont have to go to an insane amount of RPM.
what are the rest of the specs. I want a cam that I will see a noticable gain over what I have. I dont just want 10 more hp. I want it to be a nice gain
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I thought you were going to sell the car?
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I thought you were going to sell the car?
couldnt do it. I dont plan on doing that new cam soon. Just want to get ideas.
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Yea I'm in the same boat, I am thinking of either the MS3 or the G5X2. I also have a TR224/112 which makes decent power, but I want more power
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Old Sep 28, 2004 | 02:58 PM
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Call up the guys at Texas Speed and ask them about the difference in the piston to valve clearance for the two cams. I do beleive they have some numbers on this issue, and that might help you make your decision!
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Ron Jeremy. Although, I think you'd make better power with a set of good heads. You'd also keep your streetability, and save life on your engine.

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Ron Jeremy. Although, I think you'd make better power with a set of good heads. You'd also keep your streetability, and save life on your engine.

Josh
that is true. Heads are just so damn $$$$. I think instead of spending 2k on heads Ide rather dave up for a blower and built block
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You don't necessarily have to spend 2k on some heads, several sponsers offer them for less than $1500. You should definately look into the FMS Ron Jeremy Cam (nickname). Its a contender, and I'm hoping to prove it with my next trip to the track. Any of the cams will do well though. I think data has shown that the t-rex slightly outperforms the magic stick, though.

Good Luck,
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