Rev Xtreme Stage 3 Heads & XR4 Cam
09-30-2004, 09:17 AM
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If anyone looks at this combo for there own car the only other thing that I would suggest is getting some bigger injectors. My stock 28# are at close to the limit and I will be upgrading as soon as I can. Other than that now I just have to save for a clutch becasue I am pretty sure the stock one will not last long 
09-30-2004, 12:03 PM
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Damn thats really impressive guys, I have also never seen a 347 dyno that high in Florida. MikeK's JPR setup only got to 437 hp and that was on a lean tune with 33 degrees of timing and a big 236 236 .600 112lsa cam. Nice job!
09-30-2004, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by C500HP
That is simply not true, Carl. With my last motor, he left it at 12.5:1 because that's where it made the most power/tq. Jeremy tries many configurations, as he does with every car he tunes. I've never seen him complete a dynotune in less than an hour. And he tunes these LS & LT motors on a daily basis for a living.
As for Ryan's car, 13.5:1 was the leanest it ever got across the chart. That is within the safe range, and also where his car made power. Keep in mind that somewhere in between the 20+ pulls, the A/F was rich at one point, then leaned out for a reason. If his car performed better rich, I'm sure Jeremy would have left it there. To top it off, Jeremy finishes the tune on the street. IMO, that is as good a tune as you're going to get anywhere in the country.
Thanks.
BTW, the cam was a 236/230-XER 114.
As for Ryan's car, 13.5:1 was the leanest it ever got across the chart. That is within the safe range, and also where his car made power. Keep in mind that somewhere in between the 20+ pulls, the A/F was rich at one point, then leaned out for a reason. If his car performed better rich, I'm sure Jeremy would have left it there. To top it off, Jeremy finishes the tune on the street. IMO, that is as good a tune as you're going to get anywhere in the country.
Thanks.
BTW, the cam was a 236/230-XER 114.
Im not trying to argue Dan
, but when I was there for the tune we did at night my first pull was a little above 14:1 and I told him to bring it down to ~12.6-12.8 and he argued with me that 14:1 is perfectly safe on the street and he said I would probably lose power with a richer A/F. He brought the A/F down to ~13.3 and I gained a bit of low end TQ and lost no HP, but he still wouldnt go below that. I never said anything about his tuning abilities as they are great. 
09-30-2004, 02:50 PM
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Thanks for the smoothed numbers, makes the numbers look more legit than a spike somewhwere. Could you post a smoothed graph? How about the pricing I asked for previously? Thanks and definitely good numbers.
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09-30-2004, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Country Boy
Im not trying to argue Dan , but when I was there for the tune we did at night my first pull was a little above 14:1 and I told him to bring it down to ~12.6-12.8 and he argued with me that 14:1 is perfectly safe on the street and he said I would probably lose power with a richer A/F. He brought the A/F down to ~13.3 and I gained a bit of low end TQ and lost no HP, but he still wouldnt go below that. I never said anything about his tuning abilities as they are great.
, but when I was there for the tune we did at night my first pull was a little above 14:1 and I told him to bring it down to ~12.6-12.8 and he argued with me that 14:1 is perfectly safe on the street and he said I would probably lose power with a richer A/F. He brought the A/F down to ~13.3 and I gained a bit of low end TQ and lost no HP, but he still wouldnt go below that. I never said anything about his tuning abilities as they are great. 
09-30-2004, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by CoolSSBoy
Thanks for the smoothed numbers, makes the numbers look more legit than a spike somewhwere. Could you post a smoothed graph? How about the pricing I asked for previously? Thanks and definitely good numbers.
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09-30-2004, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by gator's 99TA
yup call the shop for a price and a combo. dino and dan will answer all your questions. country boy, stop causing problems before i have to slap the redneck out of ya 
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j/k
Me.... cause trouble.. nah For real though, I wasnt aiming to start anything 
I like the setup. It kicked the hell out of my Absolute Speed heads and G5X3 setup
09-30-2004, 05:27 PM
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Regarding the smoothing factor, go back and read the graph with 0 smoothing. Look at the spikes... Notice they are very small? Imagine a smooth straight line. The difference is plus or minus 2 hp. Some dynographs have huge spikes, where smoothing would alter the ultimate max values. But with Ryan's graph, it was very consistant.
09-30-2004, 06:47 PM
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That dyno was with all belts and no tricks too! I would like to see the short belt mod done. I have never seen it in person.
Carl..I was just looking at your dyno....on the first pull it came in at 13.67 AF with the LG tune. The 8th and final pull was at 13.07. Pretty good IMO from start to finish.
If you seriously wanted it at 12.8 im sure Mr. Formato will put it there for you. It just sounds like your picking at stuff a bit.
Anyways...good job on the heads and cam Rx. Makes me want to get another SS to make a 440 rwhp daily driver
Carl..I was just looking at your dyno....on the first pull it came in at 13.67 AF with the LG tune. The 8th and final pull was at 13.07. Pretty good IMO from start to finish.
If you seriously wanted it at 12.8 im sure Mr. Formato will put it there for you. It just sounds like your picking at stuff a bit.
Anyways...good job on the heads and cam Rx. Makes me want to get another SS to make a 440 rwhp daily driver
09-30-2004, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 383LQ4SS
Carl..I was just looking at your dyno....on the first pull it came in at 13.67 AF with the LG tune. The 8th and final pull was at 13.07. Pretty good IMO from start to finish.
If you seriously wanted it at 12.8 im sure Mr. Formato will put it there for you. It just sounds like your picking at stuff a bit.
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If you seriously wanted it at 12.8 im sure Mr. Formato will put it there for you. It just sounds like your picking at stuff a bit.
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When he first sat in the car, I specifically asked for 12.6-12.8. It was around 10 PM so I wasnt going to stay any later. BTW~ there was no LG tune. They told me that they couldnt connect to the computer and sent it back so it still had Jeremys old tune from a different setup.
I wasnt looking for any arguements, but I guess it seemed to come off in a bad way
Now back to youre regularly scheduled thread
09-30-2004, 09:01 PM
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Carl, quit hijacking this thread.
I think Ryan and Dino should line them up at "The Battle of the Car Clubs" Sunday at Bradenton Motorsports Park.
I think Ryan and Dino should line them up at "The Battle of the Car Clubs" Sunday at Bradenton Motorsports Park.
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09-30-2004, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by C500HP
I think Ryan and Dino should line them up at "The Battle of the Car Clubs" Sunday at Bradenton Motorsports Part.
Maybe we can get Carl to line up with Ryan?
And Perhaps C500HP and DaTruth as well?
09-30-2004, 09:17 PM
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Sweet numbers guys.
Jeremy has done all the tuning for me as well.
My A/F is at 12.9 and that is where I made the best power.
When we tried to go a little more on the lean side it did no good.
Anyways I think Carl isn't trying to stir anything up just came out the wrong way.
Looks like rev is starting to make some top notch numbers to go along with their top notch C/S.
Jeremy has done all the tuning for me as well.
My A/F is at 12.9 and that is where I made the best power.
When we tried to go a little more on the lean side it did no good.
Anyways I think Carl isn't trying to stir anything up just came out the wrong way.
Looks like rev is starting to make some top notch numbers to go along with their top notch C/S.
09-30-2004, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by C500HP
Carl, quit hijacking this thread.
I think Ryan and Dino should line them up at "The Battle of the Car Clubs" Sunday at Bradenton Motorsports Part.
I think Ryan and Dino should line them up at "The Battle of the Car Clubs" Sunday at Bradenton Motorsports Part.
