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Old 03-13-2008, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Shawn MacAnanny
I keep reading "ferrules" what does that mean? I had my shorblock out on a stand and no one could tell me how to find out if i had upgraded rod bolts or not when i posted the thread as i have 241 heads as well.
Do a search for Ferrules on here and you will find a pic of them. Basically instead of the bolts having a step or shoulder built into the bolt they have ferrules instead. If u loosened a rod bolt up u would have been able to figure it out....I'll see if I kept my bolts and if so ill take a pic for reference.
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Originally Posted by BigKap94z
The newer rod bolts are the ones with the ferrules, my late year 2000 T/A with 241 heads had the newer bolts. Unfortunately I didn't find this out until I was pulling the rod bolts to replace them with ARP's.
The evidence has been accumulating on this board that the rod bolts and oil pumps were upgraded to the newer versions when the switch to 241 heads was made in mid-2000.
Old 03-14-2008, 12:17 AM
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Well i doubt my car has the upgraded bolts, since my car has ASC # 132 so it was one of the earlier models of WS6 for 2000. But hey if in mid 2000 they were switched, then thats good news for those that had a later built 2000 LS1.
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Old 03-14-2008, 06:22 AM
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https://ls1tech.com/forums/showpost....9&postcount=28
Check out this post reguaring spinning 700+ on a stock 98 shortblock...
Old 03-14-2008, 04:33 PM
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According to my ALLDATA, 2000 was the first year to have the first or second design rod bolts.

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Old 03-15-2008, 01:59 AM
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That's kinda good news.. if only someone would chime in that has torn into their shortblock with the older heads (853?) and what not.
Old 03-25-2008, 01:47 PM
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Here is something I stumbled on. The attached image references a portion of a 97-02 C5 parts list.

Item #116 is the connecting rod bolt. A first bolt part number 10239136 (no ferrules) is listed with the 97 and 98 model years, and a second bolt part number 12568069 (with ferrules) is listed with 97-01 model years (including the 01 LS6). Presumably the later part number references the 97 and 98 model years because it is compatible with the 97-98 models.

Anyway, since the part number changed in 99, this at least implies that 99 and later model years included the later (i.e., stronger) bolt. Whether or not that really occurred is another story.

It has been established that at least some 00 model years have bolts with ferrules. I don't recall whether or not any 99 model years have been found with ferrules. So the questions are
1) has anyone found ferrules with their 99 rod bolts?
2) has anyone not found ferrules with their 00 rod bolts?
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Old 03-25-2008, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by RevGTO
The evidence has been accumulating on this board that the rod bolts and oil pumps were upgraded to the newer versions when the switch to 241 heads was made in mid-2000.
My car is a 2000 with 241 heads so hopefully i got the upgraded rod bolts to.
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my buddy had a 241 head 2000 ls1 engine that did not have ferruls aka it had the "weak" rod bolts.
Old 05-12-2008, 02:37 PM
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How do you know if you have the 241 heads, I have an 00 ss
Old 05-12-2008, 09:31 PM
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The numbers will be stamped on the corner of the cylinder heads above the exhaust. On the driveside front and passenger side rear a believe. Dont have to take the valve covers off they are right where you can see them.
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Originally Posted by Russ K
According to my ALLDATA, 2000 was the first year to have the first or second design rod bolts.

Russ Kemp

Old thread I know, but did and '02 engines come without the ferrules? Got one I'm building that the guy said it's from an '02 SS but it's got the rod bolts with the step in it with no ferrules and the light threading all the way up like the one on the left in the attachment the Russ K put up.
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