Input on dual valvesprings
Input on dual valvesprings Just curious as to what you guys think about both the PRC dual valvesprings and the Manley performance dual valvesprings. Both kits are offered by Futral Motorsports. I've heard alot of great things about the PRCs, even though they're relatively new to the market, but I haven't heard much about the Manleys (even though they're a well known name). I did a search and came up with pretty much nothing about the Manley stuff. Any input, ideas, suggestions from anyone. The cams I'm considering have a max lift of just under .600.
TIA.
TIA.
I'm suprised you haven't considered patriot gold duals as well. PRC and PP Golds are both excellent springs, should do you well either way. Manley is a good company as well, but I don't know much about their dual springs so I can't comment on them.
When I was in the market for springs, I was reading not so nice things about the manley's. I have no practical experiance with them, but others didn't do so well. In my conversations with the guys at Thunder Racing, the 918's will work just fine on a cam with .600" of lift. I bought their "Old Man" cam w/ .600" on the intake side, and even though I had the money, they suggested the 918's. They're lighter, and mucho tough. Just a thought. 
Good luck whichever route you decide to take.
Good luck whichever route you decide to take. Patriot Golds...the orginal "Gold" Spings are available for only $279.50 for the complete kit, from any of the following retailers: Speed Inc., FFHP, LM Performance, Summit, Combination Motorsports, Scoggin-Dickey, Pace Performance, Eckler's, F Body Motorsports, JC Whitney
Originally Posted by GUNNAR@PATRIOT
Patriot Golds...the orginal "Gold" Spings are available for only $279.50 for the complete kit, from any of the following retailers: Speed Inc., FFHP, LM Performance, Summit, Combination Motorsports, Scoggin-Dickey, Pace Performance, Eckler's, F Body Motorsports, JC Whitney
Yea, not a chance in hell I'd ever use another product w/the name Patriot Performance on it, I've already been through one LS1 motor on my previous car.. I know you're just working for them & selling their product, but I wouldn't put them on my car if you paid me the $279.50 to put them on it.
Last edited by 99BackNBlackZ28; Nov 25, 2004 at 02:46 AM.
Originally Posted by 99BackNBlackZ28
Yea, not a chance in hell I'd ever use another product w/the name Patriot Performance on it. I know you're just working for them & selling their product, but I wouldn't put them on my car if you paid me the $279.50 to put them on it.
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so if i wanted to order the Torquer Cam, what components would i need to change? and do these PRC spring kits bring every component i need for a cam swap? thanks
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Originally Posted by 2000Hawk
so if i wanted to order the Torquer Cam, what components would i need to change? and do these PRC spring kits bring every component i need for a cam swap? thanks
If you are doing install add tools, spring tool, lifter holding tools, cam degreing kit etc....
Last edited by PREDATOR-Z; Nov 26, 2004 at 01:21 AM.
Originally Posted by 99BackNBlackZ28
Yea, not a chance in hell I'd ever use another product w/the name Patriot Performance on it, I've already been through one LS1 motor on my previous car.. I know you're just working for them & selling their product, but I wouldn't put them on my car if you paid me the $279.50 to put them on it.
Originally Posted by ramairstyle00
are you just spitting up info that you read on here or do you have a personal experiances with it?
Does your reading comprehension just suck or what?
I went through 2 sets of Patriot heads and 1 LS1 motor...whats so hard to understand? I bolted a set of Patriot heads on, Terry @ the time, called me 2 days later to tell me that there were issues with some bad valves going out. So Terry was cool enough to send me another set of heads. I guess quality control let another bad set slip through and I toasted my motor. Is that a personal enough experience for you?
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How long ago was this? All of those issue have long been resolved. It is not uncommon for a company that is just starting out to have a few hiccups. I'm sorry for your situation, but rest assured, that the quality issues they had in the past have been dealt with. Can you name one person yet who has broken a PP Gold srping? Hell even AFR is using the same springs.
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
Can you name one person yet who has broken a PP Gold spring?
There has been a couple but nothing major, just the coil tip broke off, no middle coil failures on record AFAIK.
There has been a couple but nothing major, just the coil tip broke off, no middle coil failures on record AFAIK.
I'm sure you're right. I mean you put out enough of a particular product and eventually somebody is going to have a failure. It's how a company handles those situations, that will determine their success in this business. As far as I can tell the service over at Patriot is top notch. However I don't see the point in bringing up old dead topics that have long been resolved, just because you want to bash a company. Those past issues are no longer, and the company has gone leaps and bounds to fix the problems and assure the pulblic of a quality product. I don't suppose GM has ever had a recall because some bad parts got out there either? Like I said, it's how you handle a situation.
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I've heard nothing but good things about the Patriot Gold Springs, and these new PRC springs look really nice also. I went with Crane 832's, had to shim them .090.
To the best of our knowledge, our Patriot Golds have never had an "in the field" failure. There was a case in which our Patriot Golds were installed incorrectly and this resulted in the coil "tip" breaking on a few of them. Our Patriot Gold Spring is among the best on the market. When you buy our spring kit, you get a COMPLETE spring kit which includes; Patriot Gold Springs, Super 7 Locks, Viton Rubber Seals, & Machined Seat Bases. All for this for only $269.50 !!
Why pay more for less ??
Why pay more for less ??
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Does your reading comprehension just suck or what?
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Originally Posted by 99BackNBlackZ28
Does your reading comprehension just suck or what?
I went through 2 sets of Patriot heads and 1 LS1 motor...whats so hard to understand? I bolted a set of Patriot heads on, Terry @ the time, called me 2 days later to tell me that there were issues with some bad valves going out. So Terry was cool enough to send me another set of heads. I guess quality control let another bad set slip through and I toasted my motor. Is that a personal enough experience for you?
I went through 2 sets of Patriot heads and 1 LS1 motor...whats so hard to understand? I bolted a set of Patriot heads on, Terry @ the time, called me 2 days later to tell me that there were issues with some bad valves going out. So Terry was cool enough to send me another set of heads. I guess quality control let another bad set slip through and I toasted my motor. Is that a personal enough experience for you?
My reading comprehension is fine as I went to school and college when they still actually taught and spoke proper English, but someone's logic sucks.
FWIW, I don't use the Patriot springs, but I haven't heard or read a single bad remark about them.