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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 09:21 PM
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After installing my heads and cam my motors valve train is very loud! I have the patriot dual gold springs, comp hardend pushrods, and stock lifters. I have openend my valve covers nothing is broken, no pushrods are bent. What could this be? The car still runs awesome but this valvetrain seems just to noisy.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 09:57 PM
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How much are the heads milled and what length pushrods do you have?
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patriot perf stage 2 5.3 heads with 2.02 1.57 ss valves and gold springs ,63 cc chambers. Thats all I know about the heads. How do I know if they are milled? My pushrods are stock size, 7.4's.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 04:47 PM
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patriot perf stage 2 5.3 heads with 2.02 1.57 ss valves and gold springs ,63 cc chambers. Thats all I know about the heads. How do I know if they are milled? My pushrods are stock size, 7.4's.
Come on, can anyone help me out? Are my heads milled? It looks like Patriot only makes this style stage 2 5.3L head.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 06:45 PM
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Hey man, when my header bolts came loose on one side it sounded like I had a loose rocker arm...I went and bought new ones, and noticed the headers were leaking when I was tearing the valve covers off to install new ones. It's worth a shot, just make sure all the header bolts are snug.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 06:51 PM
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You've got the sewing machine noise after H&C install. Some are noiser than others. I would think your heads are not milled enough to warrant a smaller pushrod. If all is well other than some noise you may want to just turn up the radio as many cars have this.
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You've got the sewing machine noise after H&C install. Some are noiser than others. I would think your heads are not milled enough to warrant a smaller pushrod. If all is well other than some noise you may want to just turn up the radio as many cars have this.
Just as long as im not the only one then thats good. I can live with it and yes my headers do leak, I know that for a fact. Im taking off the Flowtechs and putting on some Hookers next month.
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Mine is making noise also after cam instal. I understand the sewing machine noise, but it sounds like a loud ticking. Like a loose rocker arm only on the drivers side near the front. I have checked the rocker arms and all is well. I am going to pull the pushrods next. I am wondering if the stock 76,000 mile lifters are starting to give up under the spring pressure. It is really bad on decell. It is driving me nuts.
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Mine is making noise also after cam instal. I understand the sewing machine noise, but it sounds like a loud ticking. Like a loose rocker arm only on the drivers side near the front. I have checked the rocker arms and all is well. I am going to pull the pushrods next. I am wondering if the stock 76,000 mile lifters are starting to give up under the spring pressure. It is really bad on decell. It is driving me nuts.
Could be a header leak.
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Originally Posted by Pray
Mine is making noise also after cam instal. I understand the sewing machine noise, but it sounds like a loud ticking. Like a loose rocker arm only on the drivers side near the front. I have checked the rocker arms and all is well. I am going to pull the pushrods next. I am wondering if the stock 76,000 mile lifters are starting to give up under the spring pressure. It is really bad on decell. It is driving me nuts.

That's exactly what mine did, it sounds kinda like a squeak almost...my header bolts were pretty loose, and I had Percy's aluminum gaskets on, so from it leaking for a few weeks it blew out a peice of the gasket. You really couldnt tell what it was because it only made noise t certain RPM's and on decel.

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No leaks. I retightend everything. still the same noise. It is just getting lauder.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Stangkilr
Come on, can anyone help me out? Are my heads milled? It looks like Patriot only makes this style stage 2 5.3L head.
The heads would not be milled here unless it was requested by the customer to do so.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 02:12 PM
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yea mine also does the same thing last time it did this i took it apart and found that one of the valve seats was sticking out a little bit, i guess it messed up again seing that i never really fixed it correctly the first time lol so gotta go back in again.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by zamboxl
yea mine also does the same thing last time it did this i took it apart and found that one of the valve seats was sticking out a little bit, i guess it messed up again seing that i never really fixed it correctly the first time lol so gotta go back in again.

Are you talking about a valve seat or spring seat?
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Terry@RacetechSpeed
Are you talking about a valve seat or spring seat?
the little steel valve seat in the conbustion chamber where the valve seats.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by zamboxl
the little steel valve seat in the conbustion chamber where the valve seats.

I was afraid of that.Is this a stock head or aftermarket?
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Originally Posted by Terry@RacetechSpeed
I was afraid of that.Is this a stock head or aftermarket?
stock. afraid,, what do you mean afraid, y you afraid man tell me i am freaking out over here now!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by zamboxl
stock. afraid,, what do you mean afraid, y you afraid man tell me i am freaking out over here now!!!!!!!!!!!!

I would be worried,because if the seat comes out it will destroy a lot of parts.
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Originally Posted by Terry@RacetechSpeed
I would be worried,because if the seat comes out it will destroy a lot of parts.
yea starting with the piston then iam sure the rod is just gone totally mess up the sleeve, could the rod actually make it through the sleeve and come out the side of the engine, o man i sure hope my new pp stg 2 heads get here fast. damnit thanks for reminding me off all the concequences .
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WTF!!! You mean your valve seat fell out??? That aint right!!!
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