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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 07:27 PM
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Exclamation magic stick v3. vs. the john holmes cam?

I was wondering if anyone has compared these two cams. The TSP MS3 (Magic Stick v.3) 237/242, .603"/.609", 113 LSA cam and the MTI Y1 (john holmes) 234/240, .598, .608 - 113 LSA cam. I was also wondering if the mti Y1 (john holmes) cam has a XER lobe? Does the magic stick make more power in the higher rpm's since it has more lift? Any info is greatly appriceated
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 08:00 PM
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The MTI cam looks to be the XE-R lobe. The TSP cam will have softer lobes, because that is what they like. The TSP cam isn't going to peak higher because of the lift, but more because of the duration and the softer lobe. The MTI cam will make better low-end due to the fast ramp rates of the XE-R line and will peak earlier with less duration. The lifts on both cams are so close that they are irrelivant to the equation. My guess is that the TSP cam will make more PEAK power, but the MTI cam will clean up in the low to mid area. It just depends on what you want. Street or track?
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 01:50 AM
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i do alot of street racing and some track. I will also be running some n20! maybe like 100 shot.
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 12:06 PM
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I have the MS3 cam and love it very streetable and with stock heads and a tune by Jason at TSP came out with 427hp & 394 tq. Picks up really good on the top end. Im going planning on going back there in the near future to put on a pair of AFR 205 heads. should be
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Originally Posted by y2kpewterz28
Picks up really good on the top end.
This re-enterates what I said earlier. The softer lobes "come on" hard, kinda like a powerband. 4500 up should be a blast. Both cams will like No2.
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The MS3 cam has very agressive lobes, similar to the XE-R lobes. The Lunati grinds like the 231/237 has less agressive lobes, but not all our cams are ground by Lunati.

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Originally Posted by Brian @ Texas Speed & Performance
The MS3 cam has very agressive lobes, similar to the XE-R lobes. The Lunati grinds like the 231/237 has less agressive lobes, but not all our cams are ground by Lunati.

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Good to know. What's the advertised on that cam Brian?
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Beast96Z- Intake 286/Exhaust 291 at .006"

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