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Old Apr 19, 2003 | 02:55 AM
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I found out why my block broke. On the driver side it was cracked really bad, I undid a bolt in the side back there and then the chunk fell off... I guess I pushed it a little to hard then bump starting it that day just finished the job.

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Old Apr 19, 2003 | 03:05 AM
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The Block...I managed to bust both sides.
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Old Apr 19, 2003 | 03:09 AM
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Default Re: I've got the broken rod blues...

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> What are the details of your setup?
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Old Apr 19, 2003 | 03:12 AM
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Stock LS1 with LS6 valve springs, Spec Stage 3 clutch, Adj master, other then that nothing else other then suspension stuff...Here is the block before I took taht bolt out...
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Old Apr 19, 2003 | 07:36 AM
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Default Re: I've got the broken rod blues...

Those rod bolts on your motor have 12 point heads, what year is your car? Are all newer GM bolts 12 point?Have you owned this car since new?
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Old Apr 19, 2003 | 10:19 AM
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Default Re: I've got the broken rod blues...

my stock 99 rod bolts were 12 point heads.

I suspect that they all are. I dont know if Ive seen 6 point heads on rod bolts in several years.

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Old Apr 19, 2003 | 02:39 PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by LS1derfull:
<strong> Those rod bolts on your motor have 12 point heads, what year is your car? Are all newer GM bolts 12 point?Have you owned this car since new? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No I havent owned the car since new. This is the cars 3rd engine the other two were 6.0L head/cam/exhaust/gears drag racing setups, then this stock one to move the car down the road.The car is a 2000 SS, I dont know about the number of points really I will look on my 02 Z06 shortblock that's going in the car to see how many points it has.
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Old Apr 19, 2003 | 05:24 PM
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Default Re: I've got the broken rod blues...

Ya when I broke my motor all up, I had a hole in the block like that, but at the front. All I could get out of my motor that was recognizable besides the windage tray (or what was left of it) was 2 pistons with half a skirt on each and about 1.5 in. of rod on each.
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Old Apr 20, 2003 | 11:12 AM
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<img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
Crankcase ventalation at its finest. Sorry to see it <img border="0" alt="[bomb]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bomb.gif" /> like that, but good luck with the new motor thats going in <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
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Old Apr 20, 2003 | 02:09 PM
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I have 6 point bolts and mine is a 2001 had since new. Those look like my ARP bolts now.
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Old Apr 20, 2003 | 04:02 PM
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It's that FRAM oil filter that caused the problem. Next time go with AC Delco <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

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Old Apr 20, 2003 | 05:09 PM
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Default Re: I've got the broken rod blues...

Okay I have a rod bolt sittin in front of me here, it says the following on it...A-1 LS1 3093 So it sounds like the samet thing PlumCrazy has. Yesterday when I took the engine all the way apart some of the rods were bent/warped too. As far as the Fram oil filter, yea I usually use AC Delco. In fact my oil pump screen had remense of paper in it, possibly from the filter, as well as a super small spring (I dunno where the hell it came from.) Anyway happy Easter <img border="0" alt="[driving]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_driving3.gif" />
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Old Apr 20, 2003 | 09:56 PM
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What were you spraying it with?? <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
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Old Apr 21, 2003 | 12:44 AM
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My '98 had 6 point rod bolt heads... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />

The bolts in the picture look like the A-1 products bolts that I bought from Katech.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />

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Old Apr 21, 2003 | 02:33 AM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by binksz06:
<strong> What were you spraying it with?? <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I wish I would have been sprayin it at least it would give a reason for it to be all messed up like this.
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Old Apr 21, 2003 | 05:55 AM
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Dude your rods didnt bend from hi rpm, you must have hydrauliced motor with leaky head gasket or something.Previous nitrous runs? A good diagnosis is important to keep a re-occurrence from happening.
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Old Apr 21, 2003 | 06:09 AM
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^ I'm with him...describe "bump-starting" here...it wouldn't start (in hindsight, potentially mechanically or hydraulicly locked), so you guys pulled it and popped the clutch???? Sorry about your disintegration in any case. Looks like you're the kind of guy who can handle it without a lot of pain though <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 12:30 AM
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Yea I know they didnt break from 6k rpm. I am positive the engine was hydro-locked because when I started it, it wouldnt turn over. Bump starting, I live on a hill the starter boss was broken so that was the only way to start it so I could take it to the welding shop to see if they could weld the boss back on, I just never made it that far. The starter boss is also why I have had another engine sitting in here for a long time waiting to go in the car.
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