... for my setup is still up in the air.

98 a4- 3.42's
tci ssf 3800
lid
pacesetter lt's/ory/cutout (very soon)
maybe- ls6 manifold/ ported tb/ pulleys (i would do these afterwards).
nitto's
HP tuners
STOCK heads (i don't plan on swapping anytime soon).
other stuff that doesn't matter...

im leaning towards the tsp "torquer" cam, since the car will be a 1/2 year daily driver but i like to race alot. i will race the car at least 1-2 nights a week, and i have a heavy foot. not too worried about idle because i can tune it in good w/ hptuners.

any other thoughts? i KNOW there are similar cams out there, but i don't want to really rev the car out past like 6500, the car has like 80k on it so...

also- it plan on spray after im happy with it N/A.

 

I just got that cam installed. Can't tell you much about it yet except that it sounds awesome!

 

also- i would be "happy" with high 11's N/A on a cam-only setup. hp #'s don't really apply because autos dyno shitty anyway, i would just like high 11's and a respectable trap speed (112-115mph would be my guess).

that is good that we have the same stall-speed, makes me think im on the right path...

what springs/retainers etc... did you get? why the bigger injectors and rockers? (im assuming they are not needed so..)

 

hmm i only got a tci 3000 but may run this or the 233/239 cam on spray.. i like the lower stall speed with nitrous if i can get by with running the cam i want that is.

 

ive heard a lot of good things about the torquer cam, and i just bought it. i'm waiting for spring for install.. the cam definitly should make great power. What I would do is call Trevor at texas speed and he can give you his opinion on the cam. I would also call hp tuners and ask if they have ever tuned or installed the torquer cam and see what kind of numbers they've had with it. I hope this helps ya because it has helped me before...

 

Because of that you will obviously be recommended to go with a traditional split as they respond a little better to nitrous. 233/239?? If you have a heavy foot and race weekly I wouldn't get too small of a cam.

 

I got bigger injectors because I plan on adding dry nitrous to it. Just playing it safe. I picked up the rockers cuz I really don't like the idea of needle bearings in my motor. I haven't ran it hard yet though, and have heard some bad things about the HS and floating valves - we'll see. I'm running 918 springs.

 

ok- good information. i just don't want to go too crazy on lift because the much added stress on the valvetrain and i DEFINETLY don't want to have to change the springs every 5k miles or something crazy like that.

i also want to stay in my power band the whole time (w/ the 3800 stall and 3.42's i would assume i could go pretty big on a cam though and be allright- like the above mentioned 233/239). i don't want to go too big and have some dead spots or something of that nature.



all opinions are appreciated.

 

Couple things to keep in mind: Check into the lobes the cams are ground on. A VERY cruicial factor in determining how hard a cam will be on springs is the ramp rate. e.g an XE-R lobe will beat on springs more than an XE lobe. The 231/237 was known for relatively mild lobes, not sure on the 233/239. The torquer is aggressive lobes though I remember that. The softer lobes are easier on springs but the more aggressive ones tend to have better low-midrange because they get the valve open further/earlier. But even with agressive ramp rates and good springs you aren't looking at anything worse than 15-20k miles for spring changes, depending. With a 3800 stall and 3.42's I wouldn't worry about a dead spot too much with anything you would appear to be considering. While most of these big cams appear to "come on" HARD at 4500 they aren't exactly weak below that point.

 

Also, You said you could tune it good with HPTuners, but I honestly dont think you will get the full potential out of any moderate sized cam unless tuned with Ls1Edit by a reputable(sp?) tuner.

Trevor

 

The 231/237 seems to be about what you're looking for.

Do a search on it, it seems to match your requirements to a T.

 

ok- well unless you mis-typed or something, i KNOW it can be tuned with hp tuners.

im confident that i can tune it in (with a little help from a wideband and a dyno). it may not be the ABSOLUTE BEST but i know i can get it pretty damn good, i'll know what is done to it in case i change anything, and i know it is not half-assed (i've read/heard horror stories about "pro tuners" ). it just may take me more time and effort then it would for a "pro tuner" to do it.

i'll definetly check up on the 231/237 cam. thanks