Ryan02SS

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slow ride, That's because my car was last tuned by Mikey with the LS6 cam, he didn't update the name file of the graph to TR224 until after he gave me the printouts.

BuckeyeROC

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I have a T-rex and I have a friend with the TR 224. Both untuned right now due to the winter up here.

His untuned 224 with the stock catback idles like stock but makes much more power. With the cutout open though, you can tell it's cammed, the idle is a bit more lopey.

As for the T-rex, if I lived 20 mins or so from work, I'd daily drive it. Even with a stock tune (rev limiter and idle raised to 850 rpm, no actual tuning done yet) and 3.42 gears, it's honestly not bad to drive. With a tune and steeper gears, it'd be an easy driver for me. I know the cam gets criticized a lot b/c of it's size, but if you haven't driven or ridden in one, you really don't know just how tame it is around town. Yes, the idle is lopey as hell, which is a plus for me, but actually driving with the cam isn't that big of a deal.

Not to take anything away from the 224, it's proven, a great driver cam, and you can't go wrong putting it in a daily driver. But personally, I wouldn't go with anything under a 230 in an LS1, that's just my $.02.

jrp

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seeing as how these 230+ cams dont offer anything and often have less power up until 5500 rpm i see no reason to put a 230+ in a daily driver. who wants to have to stall and gear the **** out of there daily driver just to make it "liveable". sure there killer down the track, but in the 2000 - 5000 rpm, which to me is where a daily driver spends most of there time, they offer nothing.

BuckeyeROC

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Different strokes for different folks. Like I said, it's just my opinion.

NBM2k2SS

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When they put the car on the rollers and hook **** up to the exhuast pipe and what not.

glennster

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I have a B1 lunati grind thats 221/221/560/560 on a 114.Hardcores laugh but it has great torque for the street and a nice lope with headers/ORY,pulls hard off idle to 6500 also.It pushed my stock weight camaro to the numbers in sig with a slipping clutch and nittos.I have a 12 bolt/MT DR radials and a ram stage 4 so high 11's should be no problem this year.

LS1Maniac

What about the TSP torquer? I hear it makes incredible torque down low which would make it highly street friendly.

Mr 35th

TR224 112. Had this in my automatic and the M6 conversion and loved the cam for driving around in both. By far an excellent street cam that makes great power.

jrp

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"torquer" is a misnomer.

LS1Maniac

Ok then the TSP 233/233 grind cam.

Also known as the Torquer.

Straight off their webpage:
"TSP Custom Torquer Camshaft 233/233 .589/.589 112 LSA"

Cal

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I think what he means is it is miss named because it really doesn't put out more torque than some of the other TSP cams available, just less HP. If you call them, that's what they will tell you. TSP is really not trying to push this one. The only reason I would get it over some of their other offerings would be for a little smoother idle and less strain on the springs.

luv2spd

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I don't have any numbers for my setup but will say that its definately very driveable. I felt the loss of tq off idle but by 2000 rpm its all there. It still has enough tq to drive at 60 mph in 6th w/ stock 3.42s no problem. The midrange punch is awesome. Once you get past 3000 rpms it really pulls hard.

jrp

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Cal got it

Cal

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Exactly what I was just going to post. Being a previous TR224 owner, I can't say anything bad about that cam, other than there is no reason not to go bigger unless you have to pass a tail-sniffer type emissions test OR can't stand a rough idle. Cam's of the 230 range have been known to be sweet in 350 cube engines for years even with the SBC (Gen I small block.)

To say it another way, a 230 range cam can be just as streetable as a 224, have just as much low end power, but a lot more high end power. I'm guessing my present cam has my old TR224 beat from 3500 rpm and up (maybe even 3000 rpm and up.) It just won't idle as smooth and pass a tail sniffer.

luv2spd

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The only way that a 23X cam will have just as much lowend as a 22X cam is with aggressive ramps. Right? On the other hand, if you had a 22X and a 23X cam both ground on xer lobes, I'm pretty sure the smaller cam will have better power up till 4000 or so.

LS1_PNYTAMR

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the tr224 is an amazing cam... all this talk about it making more power up to 5500 rpm is true.. but how about the last few dyno graphs we have seen of the 233/239??? looks like the tr224 has made more power then some of these cams in cars PERIOD lol..

I WILL TELL U WHAT I AM INTRESTED IN... the TREX is a Awesome power making cam, the 224 is a great daily driver.. i want to see if the 230/236 from TR cant be something in between the two. after i do a lil waiting and learning i will eitehr decide to take a chance or get teh tr 224.

amit

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i have 220 114ls cam.

it really woke up the car. pulls pretty good, gets great gas mileage.. i just wish it would have loped a bit more.. 99% of the ppl out there cant even tell its cammed.

heres a clip on stock manifolds.

http://www.ls1sounds.com/SLPloudmout...m_00SSamit.wmv

SSick

i just changed from an ASA to a TR230 (230/224 575/562 111) it's an M6 every day ride to work in traffic an hour each way and it's killer... i'm a fan!

jz06man

Check VHP- Vinici site and his 047 or 062 cam. The cam is very light by comparasion to all other, but has lots of torque low and mid and still retains hp on top-Great for a daily driver.
These cams are underrated by most, but watchout!!
I would these cams with his rocker 1.79 or 1.89.
http://www.vincihighperformance.com/...%20LS1%202.htm

Cal

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Another explaination is a tighter LSA. My TSP235/240 112 pulls harder than my TR224 114 did way before 4000 rpm.