A4 guys with a cam come in
A4 guys with a cam come in I have been searching for a cam. I was just wanting some opinions from you guys on what makes a lot of power w/ a close to stock sound and good drivability.
not an A4 but i put in a LPE GT2-3 and picked up 35 rwhp with it. it's an excellent cam if you want the car to sound as stock as possible. no one will know it's in there because it sounds/drives like stock.
if you want something that sounds close to stock and drives like stock, then you will probably have to stay in the 220 or lower range. Someone makes a stealth cam that you may wanna look into. I forget which sponsor sells that though..
as far as a good street cam.. the 224/224 is always up in the air. Makes nice power and does fairly well with the 114LSA. But you will sitll get some herky jerky crap below 40mph and idle could be great, or could be a PITA unless you can get it tuned good. Hell, a friend had a hotcam and he had more trouble getting that to idle in his M6, then I did with the 224 in my A4!!!
cams are hit and miss.. every car reacts different to them
goodluck
as far as a good street cam.. the 224/224 is always up in the air. Makes nice power and does fairly well with the 114LSA. But you will sitll get some herky jerky crap below 40mph and idle could be great, or could be a PITA unless you can get it tuned good. Hell, a friend had a hotcam and he had more trouble getting that to idle in his M6, then I did with the 224 in my A4!!!
cams are hit and miss.. every car reacts different to them
goodluck
Originally Posted by goober35
I was running a 228/228 114 lsa cam in my A4. With heads and all the bolt on i was making 390 or so unlocked with a PT4000
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From: Norcal
Originally Posted by Tiger2o69
that is about the size cam I want but w/ 112 lsa and i will have a 3500 stall...Would this be ok for a dialy driver?
I thought you wanted it to sound close to stock? lol the 228 on a 112 is going to sound down right nasty. MY 229 on a 114 sure does. I have had the TR 220/114 before and ran 11.80's with it with a ST3500 and supporting bolt ons through a cut out. My girl friend has the Stealth II in her car and it does sound good, but in my opinion it does not sound stock, lol I guess I just have a trained ear....
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I have a 220/228 114lsa .614/.597 and it doesn't idle exactly stock but it gets kinda close if you still have cats, no lt headers and good noise reducing muffler. Right now after alot of tuning (self done tunining is why "alot") it idles not very close to stock, but i have no cats and lts. of course this is with 3500 stall. I can't realy imagine a stock sounding anything above 220.
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Originally Posted by Tiger2o69
that is about the size cam I want but w/ 112 lsa and i will have a 3500 stall...Would this be ok for a dialy driver?
I have a FMS F10 228 on a 114. It makes great power for a street cam. Im guessing ill hit 380 cam only through my SS4000 next month when I dyno again. You could run a 3500 with it no problem.
The idle for this cam on a 114 isnt bad, in fact I think it may be a little tame for my tastes) but with my LT's and True duals you can definatly tell its there.
The stealth II from MTI makes good power but you really need to wind it up to get the best times out of it. Out of all of the cams ive heard it sounds closest to stock Ive heard (when properly tuned)
One guy I saw that had it was shifting at about 6700 with it. The stealth 1 seems to shift lower, but just dosent match the times that ive seen out of the Stealth II. Some have said its not quite as stealthy either.
Unless you are really trying to fool someone, I would recommend a cam no less than 224-230 (depending on where you want to shift) on a 114lsa for maximum streetability. Any variation will be within 5-10 hp on one another (if a on a single patern) and will have similar curves.
If stealth is your major concern, I would get the Stealth II and run some 3.73's with either a looser 3500 or a tighter 4000 stall( the SS series from Yank or the SSF from TCI) so your shift points with be better for the cam. Run a tame exaust with a electric cutout an open her up before staging.
Good Luck in whatever you choose. I hop I could give you some frame of reference to aid you in you decision. Take Care.
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
Stealth II here, VIG 3200, 3:73.
Sonds like a nervous stock cam, rapid sputter instead of chop chop. Great cam, 404rwhp/383rwtq. (cam only)
Sonds like a nervous stock cam, rapid sputter instead of chop chop. Great cam, 404rwhp/383rwtq. (cam only)
Sometimes I wish I didnt have a 98, and didnt live in Cali. lol I guess Ill just have to wait until I buy some afr's and then move.
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From: BFE
Originally Posted by Revelation222
Damn bro those are good numbers with the stealth II. Could you elaborate on the rest of you setup. Also, do you have any numbers to compare before and after the cam? Prob running 93 octane
Sometimes I wish I didnt have a 98, and didnt live in Cali. lol I guess Ill just have to wait until I buy some afr's and then move.
Sometimes I wish I didnt have a 98, and didnt live in Cali. lol I guess Ill just have to wait until I buy some afr's and then move.
We run 98 Octane premium unleaded (regular is 95)
As for the setup:
FIPK
80mm BBK TB
80 mm LS6 (modified)
MAC mids (modified)
Cutout
March pulley (25% UD)
rack and pinion steering (no power pump)
241 casting LS1 heads (unported) but portmatched to intake and headers.
LS6 valves/918's/tit retainers/stock rockers/ 7.35 p-rods,
.038 quench (.045 cometic gasket), so a little more compression.
free mods
Tuning by me.(Hp tuner)
I gained 52 rwhp by adding cam/ portmatching heads/ and tuning.
It peaks at 5900 and makes 400+ rwhp from there till 6400 where it starts slowly declining. i shift at 6600.
Down low Trq is 320 from 3000 rpm. 300 at 2800. Very very flat curve.
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I have a Rapid Stealth cam 224-228 114 on a 571ish lift. Only headers w/cats and a lid it put out 383hp and 363tq. Daily driver in Baltimore traffic. Drives nice and only really loud when warming up.( and thats subjective ) Once warm you have to listen behind the car and most still dont hear it.
With bolt on's I hope to be at 4oo Rwhp. I was looking at the Stealth II but I didnt see any numbers (except Predator-z) and the person I talked to kept saying 35hp (phone rep) Get the Stealth II and post the Dyno/track results.
RLTW
With bolt on's I hope to be at 4oo Rwhp. I was looking at the Stealth II but I didnt see any numbers (except Predator-z) and the person I talked to kept saying 35hp (phone rep) Get the Stealth II and post the Dyno/track results.
RLTW
Originally Posted by RGR Pete
I have a Rapid Stealth cam 224-228 114 on a 571ish lift. Only headers w/cats and a lid it put out 383hp and 363tq. Daily driver in Baltimore traffic. Drives nice and only really loud when warming up.( and thats subjective ) Once warm you have to listen behind the car and most still dont hear it.
With bolt on's I hope to be at 4oo Rwhp. I was looking at the Stealth II but I didnt see any numbers (except Predator-z) and the person I talked to kept saying 35hp (phone rep) Get the Stealth II and post the Dyno/track results.
RLTW
With bolt on's I hope to be at 4oo Rwhp. I was looking at the Stealth II but I didnt see any numbers (except Predator-z) and the person I talked to kept saying 35hp (phone rep) Get the Stealth II and post the Dyno/track results.
RLTW
I changed my mind...I dont care if it souinds stock as long as it drives good.....That stealth cam should be good w/ my nitrous as well i believe.
Im still doing research.....
thanks for the help guys
Originally Posted by Revelation222
Any cam on a 112 will NOT sound stock Im sorry to tell you.
I have a FMS F10 228 on a 114. It makes great power for a street cam. Im guessing ill hit 380 cam only through my SS4000 next month when I dyno again. You could run a 3500 with it no problem.
The idle for this cam on a 114 isnt bad, in fact I think it may be a little tame for my tastes) but with my LT's and True duals you can definatly tell its there.
The stealth II from MTI makes good power but you really need to wind it up to get the best times out of it. Out of all of the cams ive heard it sounds closest to stock Ive heard (when properly tuned)
One guy I saw that had it was shifting at about 6700 with it. The stealth 1 seems to shift lower, but just dosent match the times that ive seen out of the Stealth II. Some have said its not quite as stealthy either.
Unless you are really trying to fool someone, I would recommend a cam no less than 224-230 (depending on where you want to shift) on a 114lsa for maximum streetability. Any variation will be within 5-10 hp on one another (if a on a single patern) and will have similar curves.
If stealth is your major concern, I would get the Stealth II and run some 3.73's with either a looser 3500 or a tighter 4000 stall( the SS series from Yank or the SSF from TCI) so your shift points with be better for the cam. Run a tame exaust with a electric cutout an open her up before staging.
Good Luck in whatever you choose. I hop I could give you some frame of reference to aid you in you decision. Take Care.
I have a FMS F10 228 on a 114. It makes great power for a street cam. Im guessing ill hit 380 cam only through my SS4000 next month when I dyno again. You could run a 3500 with it no problem.
The idle for this cam on a 114 isnt bad, in fact I think it may be a little tame for my tastes) but with my LT's and True duals you can definatly tell its there.
The stealth II from MTI makes good power but you really need to wind it up to get the best times out of it. Out of all of the cams ive heard it sounds closest to stock Ive heard (when properly tuned)
One guy I saw that had it was shifting at about 6700 with it. The stealth 1 seems to shift lower, but just dosent match the times that ive seen out of the Stealth II. Some have said its not quite as stealthy either.
Unless you are really trying to fool someone, I would recommend a cam no less than 224-230 (depending on where you want to shift) on a 114lsa for maximum streetability. Any variation will be within 5-10 hp on one another (if a on a single patern) and will have similar curves.
If stealth is your major concern, I would get the Stealth II and run some 3.73's with either a looser 3500 or a tighter 4000 stall( the SS series from Yank or the SSF from TCI) so your shift points with be better for the cam. Run a tame exaust with a electric cutout an open her up before staging.
Good Luck in whatever you choose. I hop I could give you some frame of reference to aid you in you decision. Take Care.