1ScrudeDude

I have Comp Cam, 224/581/112. Made 413 RWHP with no name Stage 2 heads and 4.10 rear. I trapped 119.31 mph last Friday.

The stick pulls (TQ) from midrange all the way to my rev limit of 6800. RWHP goes up to the limit as well. I have no desire to spend more time and money for perhaps a little gain. But since you have yet to open your baby up, tough choice.

LSUxBlake

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It's because of the core used on the cam. FMS uses Cam Motion cores, which often make the cam feel much smaller than it is at idle and driving. My cam almost sounds stock through the catback, a lot of people think it's very small. People are even daily driving the Ron Jeremy from FMS (236/239 .600/.613 111LSA) with no problems, even in automatics.

Here is a vid of my car by the way if you're interested, please right click and save:
http://www.lsuxblake.com/vidcam.avi

texasuperman

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Just had a tr224 put in have'nt heard it yet since other mods are being put on as well, if youre not satisfied just put on bigger rocker arms

JNorris

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Your car sounds good.
I do not doubt that the F11 or F13 idle well for a cam of their size.
I do doubt that either will idle as well as a cam that has 7* less overlap.


John

35th SS

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dont think you can hit 390-400hp just with a cam install.just my .02 cent.still havent dyno mine.but looking at my mph looks like its going to be close.good luck.

PREDATOR-Z

In an M6 with bolt ons and a proper tune, it shouldn't be that hard. you could always do an open loop Sd tone and go way over 400rwhp.

PREDATOR-Z

In an M6 with bolt ons and a proper tune, it shouldn't be that hard. you could always do an open loop SD tune and go way over 400rwhp.

matts22

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What is open loop SD tune like you mention? How does this compare to closed loop? How would you get "a lot" more power from this?

92SilverSHO

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how long of intervals to replace springs on the 224 cam?? say compared to the GM ASA cam?

freakynipples69

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I have seen many people on the dyno section reaching 400rwhp in an M6 tuned with the TR224 and full boltons(which I also have). I am adding a cut out at the I-pipe which is good on the average an extra 10rwhp.

zamboxl

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i dont know man i got an m6 with intake exaust work done and a tr 224, and iam only making like 360 untuned, add like another 20 hp for the tune thats still only like 380 thats 10 or 20 hp short of target.

LSUxBlake

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Don't just add 20 for the tune, you can never guess at those numbers. Look at the thread in the dyno section titled something like "f13 dyno tune results", the guy did 36X without a tune, and is at 413 with a tune (439 uncorrected). You never know what the hell your comptuer is doing with a new cam, they all react differently. And don't underestimate the TR224, it is a really good cam and 400 is definitely possible. The F13 is just my preference.

JLSS

So for a car that is used primarily as an autocrosser vs. a drag car, what should I go with? I'm thinking F13 as I'd like it to trap around 116 cam only but still have plenty down low for autocrossing. I don't think a 224 would be enough to trap 116 or more on stock heads with a full weight car. Don't want the car to be unpleasant at all to drive as it's not a race-only car. However it isn't a daily driver either. Thanks.

freakynipples69

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Well if anyone wants to do a straight trade, my TR224 for your F13 then PM me otherwise it's TR224 for me.

edit: Also I figure I am making around 360rwhp right now with all the boltons. I was dynoed before I added on the S3 TB, ASP Pulley, and exhaust cut out and I made 340rwhp.

zamboxl

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damn then my comp is screwing me over i know iam running a little rich couse of the lt's and no tuning but tham i am getting raped by my comp then.

98TAauto

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dont worry, ill surely let you know how the F11 idles anyway LOL.. hopefully ill be happy and it wont be much worse than the 224 lol

hope to have mine together this weekend or soon anyway..

LSUxBlake

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I'm interested to hear what you have to say, having run both. Is the 224 tuned, and will you retune for the F11?