Dyno Results- AFR Heads + Mild Cam
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First, just wanted to thank a sponser, Speed Inc, for making this turn key experience a pleasant one!
Car: 02 Formula, 4950 miles
Before Mods: Blackwing lid, GMMG, SFCs, Firehawk Wheels w/KDW tires, otherwise car is bone stock.
Added to the mix: AFR 205 66cc heads out of box, Comp custom 222/222 .581 .581 115lsa XER, moly pushrods, roller master single chain, 160 t-stat, new plugs/wires, and a Vig 2800.
![](http://www.wideopenwest.com/~arcticformula/ArcticDyno.jpg)
Before: 313 RWHP - 329 RWTQ
After: 376 RWHP - 361 RWTQ
Right about where I thought the car would be, and am pleased with the results
. At some point might do headers and free up more power, but for now just looking forward to warmer, drier weather to enjoy the car, and new personal bests at the track come spring.
Car: 02 Formula, 4950 miles
Before Mods: Blackwing lid, GMMG, SFCs, Firehawk Wheels w/KDW tires, otherwise car is bone stock.
Added to the mix: AFR 205 66cc heads out of box, Comp custom 222/222 .581 .581 115lsa XER, moly pushrods, roller master single chain, 160 t-stat, new plugs/wires, and a Vig 2800.
![](http://www.wideopenwest.com/~arcticformula/ArcticDyno.jpg)
Before: 313 RWHP - 329 RWTQ
After: 376 RWHP - 361 RWTQ
Right about where I thought the car would be, and am pleased with the results
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Originally Posted by AnthonyR
Any headers or are you on stock manifolds?
I hit 393 with a T-1 cam and headers
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I'm sorry, but those numbers are pretty weak....
I'm getting very suspicious of Speed Inc's tuning capability.
People get those #'s with cam only (222-224 duration range) and a good tune...
I'm getting very suspicious of Speed Inc's tuning capability.
People get those #'s with cam only (222-224 duration range) and a good tune...
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if i read that right, he's runnin the stock manifolds
LT headers, true duals, 90/90 lsx intake/tb combo, pulley, electric waterpump, and some more tuning ... then everything will look a lot different
LT headers, true duals, 90/90 lsx intake/tb combo, pulley, electric waterpump, and some more tuning ... then everything will look a lot different
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guys the only engine mods are:
lid
gmmg
ls6 intake
205's w/ stock compression
222/222 .581 112
160 stat
those numbers are great relative to HIS setup. look at how much under the curve power and tq he picked up, its rediculous. with LT, ORY, TB, pulley and retune he's got another 40rwhp easy.
lid
gmmg
ls6 intake
205's w/ stock compression
222/222 .581 112
160 stat
those numbers are great relative to HIS setup. look at how much under the curve power and tq he picked up, its rediculous. with LT, ORY, TB, pulley and retune he's got another 40rwhp easy.
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Don't you people read?? Those numbers aren't weak at all considering the only other mods he has is a lid and catback.
I think you forgot about these things:
-He's an auto
-Stock Headers & Stock y-pipe & cats
-No ported TB
-No pullies
-small 222 cam
You can't just bolt on magic heads and expect huge numbers relative to other cars who have a complete combo. The exhaust is the main big cork on the remaining power in those heads.
I think you forgot about these things:
-He's an auto
-Stock Headers & Stock y-pipe & cats
-No ported TB
-No pullies
-small 222 cam
You can't just bolt on magic heads and expect huge numbers relative to other cars who have a complete combo. The exhaust is the main big cork on the remaining power in those heads.
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Not flaming the guy, but the part about not having headers was not there when I posted. I just asked about the headers because I thought the numbers were a little low considering the heads and cam package. I agree that the numbers would go way up with a nice set of LT's...good numbers for the mods though.
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Originally Posted by AdamSS
I'm sorry, but those numbers are pretty weak....
I'm getting very suspicious of Speed Inc's tuning capability.
People get those #'s with cam only (222-224 duration range) and a good tune...
I'm getting very suspicious of Speed Inc's tuning capability.
People get those #'s with cam only (222-224 duration range) and a good tune...
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I had a TR224 in my car with stock manifolds and it ran worse than it did with the Z06 cam. It trapped out at 109mph with the Z06 cam and 108mph with the TR224. It was only an experiment. Soon as I put the headers on the TR224 trapped out at 114mph. This was in an A4. He is bottle necking up a lot of hp in there...
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Originally Posted by KB99WS6
Don't you people read?? Those numbers aren't weak at all considering the only other mods he has is a lid and catback.
I think you forgot about these things:
-He's an auto
-Stock Headers & Stock y-pipe & cats
-No ported TB
-No pullies
-small 222 cam
You can't just bolt on magic heads and expect huge numbers relative to other cars who have a complete combo. The exhaust is the main big cork on the remaining power in those heads.
I think you forgot about these things:
-He's an auto
-Stock Headers & Stock y-pipe & cats
-No ported TB
-No pullies
-small 222 cam
You can't just bolt on magic heads and expect huge numbers relative to other cars who have a complete combo. The exhaust is the main big cork on the remaining power in those heads.
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No doubt. Furthermore those numbers may be with an unlocked converter. Even if they are locked those are still good numbers for the mods he has.
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First, just wanted to thank a sponser, Speed Inc, for making this turn key experience a pleasant one!
Car: 02 Formula, 4950 miles
Before Mods: Blackwing lid, GMMG, SFCs, Firehawk Wheels w/KDW tires, otherwise car is bone stock.
Added to the mix: AFR 205 66cc heads out of box, Comp custom 222/222 .581 .581 115lsa XER, moly pushrods, roller master single chain, 160 t-stat, new plugs/wires, and a Vig 2800.
![](http://www.wideopenwest.com/~arcticformula/ArcticDyno.jpg)
Before: 313 RWHP - 329 RWTQ
After: 376 RWHP - 361 RWTQ
Right about where I thought the car would be, and am pleased with the results
. At some point might do headers and free up more power, but for now just looking forward to warmer, drier weather to enjoy the car, and new personal bests at the track come spring. ![Mr. Cool](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_cool.gif)
Car: 02 Formula, 4950 miles
Before Mods: Blackwing lid, GMMG, SFCs, Firehawk Wheels w/KDW tires, otherwise car is bone stock.
Added to the mix: AFR 205 66cc heads out of box, Comp custom 222/222 .581 .581 115lsa XER, moly pushrods, roller master single chain, 160 t-stat, new plugs/wires, and a Vig 2800.
![](http://www.wideopenwest.com/~arcticformula/ArcticDyno.jpg)
Before: 313 RWHP - 329 RWTQ
After: 376 RWHP - 361 RWTQ
Right about where I thought the car would be, and am pleased with the results
![Happy](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_stretch.gif)
![Mr. Cool](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_cool.gif)
How about valvetrain noise? Quiet as stock, or much louder?
Good luck with it!
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those are great numbers for an auto with a fairly loose converter, unlocked...(you would get 20+ rwhp with the stock converter locked). For just heads, mild cam and a couple of bolt ons with stock exhaust and stock intake/TB....those are damn nice numbers. Everyone wants to bolt on heads and cam only and run 500 rwhp...it just does'nt happen like that!
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that car has plenty of untapped potential, with that "little" horsepower he has I'm sure he'll hit 11's. I rather have a lower horsepower car turn a great et than a higher hp car that puts up a disappointing number.