TR224 over Hotcam
this is just to all the people that say the hotcam doesnt idle worth **** and has terrible driving attitude. my car has a mail order tune and the hotcam and i tell you what i have not had one probelm that everyone always says that they have! runs as smooth as a stock car. so unless yall have a personal expeirence, would you please try not to talk about it, if you have had the experience then by all means talk away, but if you havent then lets let the people that have talk
Originally Posted by 68birdls1
this is just to all the people that say the hotcam doesnt idle worth **** and has terrible driving attitude. my car has a mail order tune and the hotcam and i tell you what i have not had one probelm that everyone always says that they have! runs as smooth as a stock car. so unless yall have a personal expeirence, would you please try not to talk about it, if you have had the experience then by all means talk away, but if you havent then lets let the people that have talk
INFACT IV NEVER HEARD ANY CAM WITH THAT DURATION RUN SMOOTH AS STOCK JUST MY.02
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I just installed the tr224/224/114 2 weeks ago.
i just have to tell you its awsome!
this is a dyno of the cam before and after the tune. its so close, i call it 390rwhp
I have just about every bolton.
but for the cam swap i did the TR package with the TIT retainers and the 921 springs and all the other goodies.
i did see a car with the hotcam and LTs, and i realy didnt like it. I dont know what other mods he had, but it was a 98 a4. on nitto555r's he only managed a 13.1 @ 109. I was not impressed.
then i saw a car with the tr224, and he put down 397rwhp and runs mid 12's. he had all the mods i have except he was running no cats.
not realy apples and apples, just what i have seen.
i just have to tell you its awsome!
this is a dyno of the cam before and after the tune. its so close, i call it 390rwhp
I have just about every bolton.
but for the cam swap i did the TR package with the TIT retainers and the 921 springs and all the other goodies.
i did see a car with the hotcam and LTs, and i realy didnt like it. I dont know what other mods he had, but it was a 98 a4. on nitto555r's he only managed a 13.1 @ 109. I was not impressed.
then i saw a car with the tr224, and he put down 397rwhp and runs mid 12's. he had all the mods i have except he was running no cats.
not realy apples and apples, just what i have seen.
i just asked my mecahnic about the cam swap..he will be the one doing the work, and he told me not to get a cam that has the same numbers from intake and exhaust. he said you will make awesome power up top but it will run like **** at idle. i completly understand what he was saying but does this apply for the TR224? can i get away with the 224/224 being it is not such an agressive cam. and the tune would help clear that up too right?
Originally Posted by SStheBest
this might b a dump question but is the Comp cam 224 the same thing?
[QUOTE=elite22xl]i just asked my mecahnic about the cam swap..he will be the one doing the work, and he told me not to get a cam that has the same numbers from intake and exhaust. QUOTE]
The idle quality is all in the tune, and drivability is all in the owner. I wanted to go with a 224/224 but had this one installed insted (actually turned out better). As long as you get a good tune with either cam it will idle good. They will lope but they will idle good. Besides, you dont want your car to be smooth! Nothing like seeing peoples faces when you have a 3 year old car idleing like a damn dragster! They let you leave the light first everytime.
The idle quality is all in the tune, and drivability is all in the owner. I wanted to go with a 224/224 but had this one installed insted (actually turned out better). As long as you get a good tune with either cam it will idle good. They will lope but they will idle good. Besides, you dont want your car to be smooth! Nothing like seeing peoples faces when you have a 3 year old car idleing like a damn dragster! They let you leave the light first everytime.
Originally Posted by elite22xl
i just asked my mecahnic about the cam swap..he will be the one doing the work, and he told me not to get a cam that has the same numbers from intake and exhaust. he said you will make awesome power up top but it will run like **** at idle. i completly understand what he was saying but does this apply for the TR224? can i get away with the 224/224 being it is not such an agressive cam. and the tune would help clear that up too right?
tough choice...
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the 224 cam will idle better than the hot cam. Here is a small clip of my 224 car BEFORE tuning. http://members.***.net/jasonp/224cam
yea after asking a few buddys, jrp your right, he is used to the old gm motors that flowed like **** in terms of exhaust out of stock heads. ill have to talk to him
Originally Posted by elite22xl
he told me not to get a cam that has the same numbers from intake and exhaust. he said you will make awesome power up top but it will run like **** at idle. i completly understand what he was saying but does this apply for the TR224? can i get away with the 224/224 being it is not such an agressive cam. and the tune would help clear that up too right?
i would go with the tr224 on a 112 lsa, however one thing u must understand is no cam is a sure thing for 400rwhp.. to many 233/239, and ms3 guys have fallen well short of the 400hp goal.. some small cam setups get it done, and some large cam setups get it done. i would instead look at et and driveability as ur guide for the right cam.
