Pulling an LS1 engine
Originally Posted by Inspector12
I grab off of the bumper support but the core support will work too. I have a Home Depot cart that I modified to let the motor and trany on etc... First few times I used Jacks, but it was not as easy to manuver but the time savings out weights the hasle. I have a few pic also.
the only part of it still useable is the removeable handle, it makes a perfect cheater pipe
i never felt very safe using it, so i went and got a 3.5 ton all-steel craftsman. it weighs a ton, and takes about 2x the pumps, but its alot safer feeling once somthing is up in the air.hijack - over
Originally Posted by Inspector12
1 Hr is all that is needed to drop it out the bottom. No special tools required. Engine hoist two drive on ramps. Look up my past post on this and you will see the pics I've posted.
Good luck.
Good luck.
This IS the way to go. Its great to sit on down on a roll around seat and install parts.
45-50 mins?? I don't believe it.
That's less time then it takes to R&I an intake. I've done it out the bottom and it probably took 4 hours. Are you guys counting the time it takes to take the interior apart, jack up the rear end, get all of your tools in order and STILL have time to do it without being wreckless? I don't think it's possible.
That's less time then it takes to R&I an intake. I've done it out the bottom and it probably took 4 hours. Are you guys counting the time it takes to take the interior apart, jack up the rear end, get all of your tools in order and STILL have time to do it without being wreckless? I don't think it's possible.
Originally Posted by Tech
45-50 mins?? I don't believe it.
That's less time then it takes to R&I an intake. I've done it out the bottom and it probably took 4 hours. Are you guys counting the time it takes to take the interior apart, jack up the rear end, get all of your tools in order and STILL have time to do it without being wreckless? I don't think it's possible.
That's less time then it takes to R&I an intake. I've done it out the bottom and it probably took 4 hours. Are you guys counting the time it takes to take the interior apart, jack up the rear end, get all of your tools in order and STILL have time to do it without being wreckless? I don't think it's possible.
My friend & I on here(BLKWS6) did our FIRST drop out the bottom with some last minute help from CamminBeaSSt from GMMG and is was 75 minutes from the first turn of a wrench to the assm. sitting on the floor. I know we will have this at 50 minutes to an hour with all the installs we have coming up I've done plenty of wrench turning. Not for a living but on nearly every weekend, all weekend.
When I mentioned the interior, I was thinking about the rubber shifter cover (all of those 7-8mm bolts under the leather boot). Now that you mention it, you wouldn't have to remove it. My mistake.
Tools in order, yes. Even at a shop (without a lift), you're going to have to get **** for the job ie: drain pans, engine hoist, jackstands, ramps, misc.
If you count from the first turn of a wrench, 1 hour is feasable. But that's like saying it takes 1 minute to make minute rice. You guys sure make it sound easier then it is (although, it's pretty damn easy compared to doing many things IN the car). It WILL take you 3+ hours from the time the car is turned off if you are careful and meticulous.
Anyway, back on topic.
PS. That's not to imply that minute rice is difficult or time consuming to make.
When I mentioned the interior, I was thinking about the rubber shifter cover (all of those 7-8mm bolts under the leather boot). Now that you mention it, you wouldn't have to remove it. My mistake.
Tools in order, yes. Even at a shop (without a lift), you're going to have to get **** for the job ie: drain pans, engine hoist, jackstands, ramps, misc.
If you count from the first turn of a wrench, 1 hour is feasable. But that's like saying it takes 1 minute to make minute rice. You guys sure make it sound easier then it is (although, it's pretty damn easy compared to doing many things IN the car). It WILL take you 3+ hours from the time the car is turned off if you are careful and meticulous.
Anyway, back on topic.
PS. That's not to imply that minute rice is difficult or time consuming to make.
I believe it can be done in 45 minutes with air and a hoist. Me and another guy at work have swapped 05 mustang engines and had them running again in just over an hour. But thats with knowing what exact tools are needed. We change Navigator,Expiditions, explorer, Aviators by taking the bodies off. We can have a body off in about 40 minutes.
I know I just got done putting the motor back in from the top and from helping a buddy this weekend drop the motor out the bottom I will never remove it or put it back in through the top. it is so much easier putting it back just dropping it instead of pulling the motor out from the top.
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Originally Posted by ss rally red
Do you turn wrenches for a living? Take the interior apart, you mean the pass/side kick panel/ shifter handle ****,etc. Tools in order My friend & I on here(BLKWS6) did our FIRST drop out the bottom with some last minute help from CamminBeaSSt from GMMG and is was 75 minutes from the first turn of a wrench to the assm. sitting on the floor. I know we will have this at 50 minutes to an hour with all the installs we have coming up
My friend & I on here(BLKWS6) did our FIRST drop out the bottom with some last minute help from CamminBeaSSt from GMMG and is was 75 minutes from the first turn of a wrench to the assm. sitting on the floor. I know we will have this at 50 minutes to an hour with all the installs we have coming up 
45-50 mins?? I don't believe it.
That's less time then it takes to R&I an intake. I've done it out the bottom and it probably took 4 hours. Are you guys counting the time it takes to take the interior apart, jack up the rear end, get all of your tools in order and STILL have time to do it without being wreckless? I don't think it's possible.
That's less time then it takes to R&I an intake. I've done it out the bottom and it probably took 4 hours. Are you guys counting the time it takes to take the interior apart, jack up the rear end, get all of your tools in order and STILL have time to do it without being wreckless? I don't think it's possible.
[QUOTE]i have that blue aluminum jack in the second picture from the right. mine took a crap on me, it got to the point where it wouldnt hold anything up without bleeding down, and the handle was like impossible to turn with a load on it
the only part of it still useable is the removeable handle, it makes a perfect cheater pipe i never felt very safe using it, so i went and got a 3.5 ton all-steel craftsman. it weighs a ton, and takes about 2x the pumps, but its alot safer feeling once somthing is up in the air.[QUOTE]
I have other jack also I know it is not the greatest but it gets under lowered cars real good. Mine is still going strong like the Energizer bunny! All I have ever had to do is tighten the bolts around the handle area.
To pull it out the bottom, you have to unhook brake lines? I hate cracking a perfectly working fluid system open. So the 1 HR time estimates are including bleeding the brakes?
I am sure reassembly takes more than an hour.
I hate cracking a perfectly working fluid system open
I pulled mine this weekend out the top
Transmission, Heads and Oil pan were still on the motor when we pulled it, the only thing we really couldn't pull it with is the intake manifold.
Transmission, Heads and Oil pan were still on the motor when we pulled it, the only thing we really couldn't pull it with is the intake manifold.
The brake lines on the anti-lock block are labled just look to the right of each line it will say RF for right front and LF for Left front. One is in the first row and on the right looking from the front of the car and the other is in the far back going into the back side of the block I think it is the one on the right also just double check with the markings. Don't forget to take the heat sheild off and there is one plastic retaining clip that slides off and then you will be able to pull the lines out of the holder.
On an M6 car is it possible to pull the motor from the top and leave the trans in the car? If it can be done I imagine it will be a challenge to get the motor/trans re-connected when it goes back together.
