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Old May 15, 2005 | 12:10 PM
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Well, in the case of my Firebird, it becomes very difficult to convince most people that it really is a Firebird. I'm referring to street cars here.
Just reading over your signs. The bird is very wicked, screw convinsing people its a firebird, tell them its a Screaming banshy Which is what I think GM wanted to call the birds before they settled on Firebird
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Old May 15, 2005 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Texas_WS6
But some of the 02 models got LS6 blocks instead of LS1 Blocks.
Just for the sake of argument, hehe, what if you had an 02 with a LS6 block and intake, took that put in on LS6 heads and cam would it still be a LS1? Is it an LS1-based LS6? just my .02.
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Old May 15, 2005 | 12:39 PM
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I like telling people its an experimental gm V-6. the modle is BS-V-6
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Old May 15, 2005 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Jassick
Just for the sake of argument, hehe, what if you had an 02 with a LS6 block and intake, took that put in on LS6 heads and cam would it still be a LS1? Is it an LS1-based LS6? just my .02.
that was retarded. call it whatever you want.
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Old May 15, 2005 | 01:02 PM
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But iron 6.0l blocks wouldnt be considered ls1, right?

408 ls1?
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Old May 15, 2005 | 01:05 PM
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Wrong
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Old May 15, 2005 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by C5XTASY
Well, I just had a new Comp Cam, 2003 LS6 heads, an LS6 intake, LS6 injectors, an LS2 timing chain and Dynatech Supermaxx headers with high-flow cats and X-pipe installed along with an exisiting GHL catback system and Blackwing. It's still an LS1, but not the same LS1 it was!
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Old May 15, 2005 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by cyphur_traq
that was retarded. call it whatever you want.
not really, i mean if u replaced the nessecary parts then it would be an ls6. now if u wanna be technical the ls6 block would make it an ls6 based ls1. its when u go to different blocks tht the designation changes. reason being a 408/402/427/454 is not built from an ls1/ls6 block and so on.. when the block stays the same the designation does. but the ls6 blocked cars i guess u could call an extremely downtuned ls6.
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Old May 15, 2005 | 01:18 PM
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I still refer to my LQ9 block in the Formula as an iron block LS1 ... same difference to me, I could care less about silly names...
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Old May 15, 2005 | 01:22 PM
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Technically an LS1 is a 5.7 liter all aluminum gen III V8. The other gen III motors all have their own designations.

The designations are
LS1
LS6
LR4 (4.8L)
LM4, LM7, L59 (5.3L)
LQ4 (6.0 w/325 hp)
LQ9 (6.0 w/377 hp)
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Old May 15, 2005 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by blkZ28spt
Technically an LS1 is a 5.7 liter all aluminum gen III V8. The other gen III motors all have their own designations.

The designations are
LS1
LS6
LR4 (4.8L)
LM4, LM7, L59 (5.3L)
LQ4 (6.0 w/325 hp)
LQ9 (6.0 w/377 hp)
He got us there. I agree with you. I am going to stop calling my motor an LS1 and Start calling it and LS6. When I finaly finish the 408 I am going to call it and LQ something. I have no idea if it was the 325hp or 377hp. It was an 04 pickup motor. I am not trying to be silly either.

Or we could just to like we use to do with the SBC and just call it what the cubes came out to be, 346 (5.7L), 402, 408 (6.6L?), 427 (7L)

I think thats what the 4 cyl. guys do to.
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Old May 15, 2005 | 01:45 PM
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If it came out of a pickup I think that makes it an LQ4. The LQ9 went in the cadillac escalade (sp?). Not sure what else might have received it...
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Old May 15, 2005 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Zinc
I use the block as a guide. Ls1 block= LS1. LS6 block = LS6.


So what is a F body that came with a LS6 block from the factory but a LS1 cam, LS1 heads etc.?
I would still say it was a LS1 with a LS6 block.
So the block method dosen't always work.
Now if you changed to a LS6 head, LS6 cam then it would be a LS6.
I say it is a LS1 forever, and the only way it isn't a LS1 is if you do a LS6 block, with 243 castings and whatever cam.
Or if you did a 6.0 iron or LS2 block with whatever parts.

This topic is why the name LSx came around.
For those who dont really have a LS1, or a LS6, or a 6.0 but a combo of them.
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Old May 15, 2005 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Texas_WS6
He got us there. I agree with you. I am going to stop calling my motor an LS1 and Start calling it and LS6. When I finaly finish the 408 I am going to call it and LQ something. I have no idea if it was the 325hp or 377hp. It was an 04 pickup motor. I am not trying to be silly either.

Or we could just to like we use to do with the SBC and just call it what the cubes came out to be, 346 (5.7L), 402, 408 (6.6L?), 427 (7L)

I think thats what the 4 cyl. guys do to.
the 4cyl guys use the weird jap designation for the motors. jus designate ur motor by its cubes and scrap the ls/lq designation. the 402 i think is like 6.55~ somethin
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Old May 15, 2005 | 01:47 PM
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I just realized that if you knew nothing about cars this whole thread would be like reading spanish, to a non spanish person.
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Old May 15, 2005 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by JZ'sTA
I just realized that if you knew nothing about cars this whole thread would be like reading spanish, to a non spanish person.


I say just call it an ls1 for the most part.

It's like calling all the car's f-body's but if you want to get more specifiec you have camaro , firebird, ws6, z28,ss.

In the end they are all Gen 3 motors.
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Old May 15, 2005 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by jrp
it will always be an ls1 no matter the bore, stroke, cam, heads, ect. an ls1 is simply a genIII motor.
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Old May 15, 2005 | 02:26 PM
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I plan on getting 6.6L decals to put on my hood behind the Ram Air decals, once I put the 408 in it. Only reason for this is because around 78ish pontiac put 6.6L on some of the cars. I just doing it for that nostalgic thing. Since they did it back then it makes it kind lagit.
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Old May 15, 2005 | 02:27 PM
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this thread is like arguing over what kind of **** dog you have(small yappy annoying *** muts). in the end you still have a **** dog.
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Old May 15, 2005 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Jassick
Just for the sake of argument, hehe, what if you had an 02 with a LS6 block and intake, took that put in on LS6 heads and cam would it still be a LS1? Is it an LS1-based LS6? just my .02.
Look no further than the option code sticker on the inside door of the 02 car and it would read "LS1" not "LS6". That's the old school way of identifying an engine. Though it's harder to do it like that for the Gen III/IV engines because of how the parts interchange.
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