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Old 06-05-2005, 11:51 AM
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ahah thats about like me, i had all my stuff between dec. and march and didnt get it in til mid may lol

I still have to get a few odds and ends, I want to make sure I have all the good stuff to bolt these Stage 2's on.

probably going with ARP studs over the stock bolts.
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Not trying to start anything but I would hope to have more than 400rwhp through a H/C M6 car...
thats funny... because back when i did my H/C package... 400rwhp for a 1999 car and a small 222/224 cam was GREAT! so i was happy with the results and drivability....

now if i would have had say a 11:1 CR insted of 10.6:1 and maybe a 228 .581 112
i would have expected somthing in the 420-430 range....

but concidering i was on a small buget... $1500 for heads, cam, LS6, pushrods, etc....
thats what i got.....
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Here is a dyno sheet using Richard's WCCH Stage 2, 6.0L heads.
The Stage 2 heads were installed on a 6.0L, A4, Truck with a Magnacharger Radix and a Comp Cams 208º/210º .554"/.556" 114ºlsa bumpstick, running 8lbs of boost.
This Cam idled stock and had a very reponsive throttle





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WOW... lightnings watch out.....
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Aren't those machining ridges in the chamber going to cause hot spots and potential issues with spark knock / detonation? Just asking the question, so please don't take it as criticism... I could be wrong!

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Originally Posted by nybrit
Aren't those machining ridges in the chamber going to cause hot spots and potential issues with spark knock / detonation? Just asking the question, so please don't take it as criticism... I could be wrong!

Cheers,
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Your question is a valid one. The scallop height we use is a few thousandts of and inch tall. The reason we machine the chambers at all is to make their volumes the same. We've not seen the step over ridges cause any problems with detonation.

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can't wait to see your results with the bigger cam MG.
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Originally Posted by Richard@WCCH
Your question is a valid one. The scallop height we use is a few thousandts of and inch tall. The reason we machine the chambers at all is to make their volumes the same. We've not seen the step over ridges cause any problems with detonation.

Richard
lol, well after I read this I couldn't help myself, I had to investigate, findings?they feel pretty smooth to the touch
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What about head porting for much larger cams? Usually people that have the 6.0 heads are running much larger cams than what is being used here. I personally am running a 244/248 .635/.627 112 +4 cam and am in the market for some porting (to match the 4.060 bore I'm running) and milling to get my compression up a bit. Just wondering because I'm trying to explore the options I have right now and it would probably help a lot of others out as well.
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Originally Posted by ArcticZ28
What about head porting for much larger cams? Usually people that have the 6.0 heads are running much larger cams than what is being used here. I personally am running a 244/248 .635/.627 112 +4 cam and am in the market for some porting (to match the 4.060 bore I'm running) and milling to get my compression up a bit. Just wondering because I'm trying to explore the options I have right now and it would probably help a lot of others out as well.

For engines with cams as large as the one your running we would recommend upgrading the heads to a stage 3 setup. The valves are upsized to 2.08"/1.60". They flow over 330cfm and carry the flow peak over .600" lift. Unfortunately there's a higher cost involved due to the machine work required to fit the larger valves.

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What's the pricing run on those?
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Complete head packages cost $1300.00 per pair with exchange. Core charges fluctuate with availability but they usually range between $275-375 for used cores and $500-650 for new.

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Gotcha. Not bad.
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nice.
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Originally Posted by ArcticZ28
What's the pricing run on those?
After reading my reply, I realized I quoted you the pricing on our Stage 2 ported heads. My apologies. The cost for upgrading to Stage 3 runs an additional $275.00 per pair. Your total for completed heads will run $1575.00 per pair with exchange.

Sorry for any confusion.

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Well, now as an upright sponsor and a fair businessman, you must honor your initial price that you quoted me. I have plenty of free time to hire a lawyer for false advertisement
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Originally Posted by ArcticZ28
Well, now as an upright sponsor and a fair businessman, you must honor your initial price that you quoted me. I have plenty of free time to hire a lawyer for false advertisement
I'd be willing to bet Richard's Stage 3's are worth every penny of $1575, still, I can't blame a guy for trying
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I just wanted to add that the more I compare my flow numbers the more I feel like these WCCH Stage 2's are everything I was looking for in a head. I realize flow benches and the manner in which the test is conducted make differences. I am going off of the data posted in this section.

So, thanks to Richard for a fantastic set of heads, and thanks to the LS1Tech members who have provided us all with the data for which to compare

as always, the proof will be in the pudding
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Moregrip,

It looks like I need to go pay a visit to your head vendor!

This looks like some really good stuff and the flow numbers are great!

Keep us informed about your numbers and don't get arrested.

Warp 10 Always!
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Originally Posted by warp 10
Moregrip,

It looks like I need to go pay a visit to your head vendor!

This looks like some really good stuff and the flow numbers are great!

Keep us informed about your numbers and don't get arrested.

Warp 10 Always!
I don't blame you a bit, his work is top-notch!

I sure will keep everyone posted


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