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Old 06-10-2005, 01:25 PM
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Nope, i do not know. But I know there is minute changes from what I read around here.

Well, if you find out let me know. Nice car BTW. I like the hockey stripe...imma have to get me a set of those in a year when I get the credit cards paid off though....lol
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
Nope, i do not know. But I know there is minute changes from what I read around here.
Comp Cams states that by lifting the valve an additional 7 to 8% (something the 1.80 rockers do), but beginning and ending the lift at the same point, the opening and closing rates become steeper. This increases duration, measured at the valve at .050" of lift, by 1 to 2 degrees.
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Well, if you find out let me know. Nice car BTW. I like the hockey stripe...imma have to get me a set of those in a year when I get the credit cards paid off though....lol
thanks for the props.

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Aight, if someone knows please post it up...I may go with some 1.75's, 1.8's if the duration won't be that high...just guessing but if 1.8's=240 duration, and 1.7=228, wouldn't 1.75=234 or somewhere in that area? And if that is correct, would 234 duration be so much that I'd lose low end power?
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Another thing, no one ever said anything about the longer pushrods, what would they do to the duration/lift?
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The durations won't increase by that much, just like a point or so.
There is no effect on the cam by p-rod.

I would recommend CRANE 1.7 "variable lift rockers".
They give you more power down low and do not really affect your PTV clearances.
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Aight, thanks, didn't know. The one guy said if I went to 1.8 lift = .570 or something, and duration=240. i was thinking no way I can do 240...a little too high fer me
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Im going with the 1.75's. Thanks fellas.
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Originally Posted by 00tals1
Im going with the 1.75's. Thanks fellas.
Let me know how it all turns out if you will. I am just curious as to how you like it.
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Make sure your springs are up to the task, not only by increasing the the ratio but the weight of the rockers themselves may hurt. It could cause valve float. I've seen it first hand. The stock rockers are kick ***... My opinion... Get a bigger cam...
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Originally Posted by TNorman
The stock rockers are kick ***.
WHAT ARE THE LIMITATIONS OF THE STOCK ROCKERS?
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Originally Posted by byrontaylor
WHAT ARE THE LIMITATIONS OF THE STOCK ROCKERS?
BETTER YET, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY ARE EXCEEDED?
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Originally Posted by byrontaylor
BETTER YET, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY ARE EXCEEDED?
No need to yell. A buddy had a 408 built with a good size cam, over 600 lift. With the bigger aftermarket rockers the dyno results showed obvious valve float with a dramatic drop in power way to early in the power curve. The stockers were thrown back in and the float was gone. This was with Crane duals. Can't imagine what problems could arise with bulky rr's on a 918 spring. Some have said that there are some brands of rr's that aren't too heavy but I don't remember the brand name. You'll have to search. I would say keep the stockers until you are doing say a stout 427 or a solid roller cammed motor.
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Originally Posted by TNorman
No need to yell. A buddy had a 408 built with a good size cam, over 600 lift. With the bigger aftermarket rockers the dyno results showed obvious valve float with a dramatic drop in power way to early in the power curve. The stockers were thrown back in and the float was gone. This was with Crane duals. Can't imagine what problems could arise with bulky rr's on a 918 spring. Some have said that there are some brands of rr's that aren't too heavy but I don't remember the brand name. You'll have to search. I would say keep the stockers until you are doing say a stout 427 or a solid roller cammed motor.

Alright, I guess I'm going to stay with the stockers. I don't need anymore problems than I already have, not to mention I don't need to spend another $500 either.
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Originally Posted by byrontaylor
BETTER YET, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY ARE EXCEEDED?
They come apart and you find needle bearings in your oil pan. This can happen without exceeding their limitations. If you do a search on needle bearings here and elsewhere, you'll see this is a too common problem with the stockers. They certainly aren't "kick ***" by any stretch of the imagination.
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Originally Posted by XTrooper
They come apart and you find needle bearings in your oil pan. This can happen without exceeding their limitations. If you do a search on needle bearings here and elsewhere, you'll see this is a too common problem with the stockers. They certainly aren't "kick ***" by any stretch of the imagination.
There is a kit by Harland Sharp with C-clips and new trunions.
Just send your set to NASTY Performance and they do it for around $250.oo

Benefits of stockers: lighter, no clearance problems on any heads.
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The stockers are very good.
Parts break from time to time, but most people have had good luck with the stockers.
You brake a piston probally 20 times to every time a rocker goes in our motor's.
Off topic a little sorry.

Back to your origional question.
Save your money and buy a new camshaft.
With the numbers you posted abaove I dont think a set of 1.75's will get you to your goal.
I would buy a camshaft and sell the one you have.
Find a good member on here to do it for you and save some money.
I only charged 350 for the last cam I did, plus the cost of the cam. 750 total and then you could sell your old cam for a couple bills. Total out of pocket ='s 550.
Old 06-11-2005, 12:14 PM
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350 is what you charged? That is a good price, all in all.
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I like to help members out on here in anyway I can.
It took less then a full day, so I figure what is wrong with making 350 dollars cash on a saturday.
It helps I have a garage about a acre behind my house and all the tools are paid for.
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Thats cool. I wished I was down there in FL, I'd give ya a shout lol.



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