cheapest shortblock w/ forged internals
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From: BFE
Originally Posted by hpjunky98
so do people think its smart to sell my block and get one from ape, or what? im getting alot of mixed messages. should i just send my block in for a rebuld?
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From: BFE
Originally Posted by hpjunky98
what are you saying is a shortcut?
That s what I mean't
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From: BFE
Originally Posted by hpjunky98
oops i ment LME haha
Get a quote from him in written. That will give a list of all their parts used.
For the price, he has some of the best quality prices.
Your best bet is to find a builder who you trust and is close enough to you so you can drop in and check on things from time to time to ensure **** doesn't go wrong. A lot of the real small operation types will make the best power but not exactly be the cheapest or quickest. I'd personally rather get the builder who will do the little things, cam tunnel, gas ported pistons, the right kind of coatings who takes the time to get it all perfect rather than the normal - 2 CC diamond piston and eagle rod shortblock.
Originally Posted by MUSTANGEATER
Your best bet is to find a builder who you trust and is close enough to you so you can drop in and check on things from time to time to ensure **** doesn't go wrong. A lot of the real small operation types will make the best power but not exactly be the cheapest or quickest. I'd personally rather get the builder who will do the little things, cam tunnel, gas ported pistons, the right kind of coatings who takes the time to get it all perfect rather than the normal - 2 CC diamond piston and eagle rod shortblock.
Personally.... If I was to do a motor for myself as a replacement short block on the cheap, a set of Eagle H beams that were well looked over and blueprinted and a Mahle Pro Pack piston. Problem is I would be doing other little tricks because I can, but workmanship makes a bottom end not always the parts. Time costs money too, so cheap in that area usually costs more money than it saves.
Bret
Originally Posted by SStrokerAce
This comes from a guy who is broke from his Rossler tranny and Billingsley suspension too.... so that says a lot.
Personally.... If I was to do a motor for myself as a replacement short block on the cheap, a set of Eagle H beams that were well looked over and blueprinted and a Mahle Pro Pack piston. Problem is I would be doing other little tricks because I can, but workmanship makes a bottom end not always the parts. Time costs money too, so cheap in that area usually costs more money than it saves.
Bret
Personally.... If I was to do a motor for myself as a replacement short block on the cheap, a set of Eagle H beams that were well looked over and blueprinted and a Mahle Pro Pack piston. Problem is I would be doing other little tricks because I can, but workmanship makes a bottom end not always the parts. Time costs money too, so cheap in that area usually costs more money than it saves.
Bret
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Originally Posted by SStrokerAce
Yeah that's why your car will never be done!
Originally Posted by SStrokerAce
You sure your not drinking now? Good spelling there!
At least you are getting your priorities straight... that's one key to getting a quality bottom end vs. a cheap one.
At least you are getting your priorities straight... that's one key to getting a quality bottom end vs. a cheap one.
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read about them in sponsor feedback...lme is a good shop I am seriously considering them to do me a shortblock...and APE has a world of **** on their hands right it seems...just my opinion from what i have read
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From: Arkansas
While we are on this...anyone ever dealt with CMS... Combination Motorsports? They have decent prices as well...about $200 more than LME...I was just thinking that they could get me a shortblock sooner...LME has a 3 week waiting list right now.
Originally Posted by JZ'sTA
I will be the first to call BS.
1200-1500 my ***. pistons are 580, rods are at least 400, rings are 180, main berrings, cam berrings etc parts alone cost nearly 1200 dollars.
So you going to do all the machine work, and assembly the motor foe little to no money at all?
Out of house machine work is normally around a 1000 bucks alone and in most cases 1400 or so for machine work plus assembly.
1200-1500 my ***. pistons are 580, rods are at least 400, rings are 180, main berrings, cam berrings etc parts alone cost nearly 1200 dollars.
So you going to do all the machine work, and assembly the motor foe little to no money at all?
Out of house machine work is normally around a 1000 bucks alone and in most cases 1400 or so for machine work plus assembly.
Rings are included with ALL MAHLE forged piston setups...Forged pistons from them with rings, wrist pins, and locks for $500. Eagle Rods are about $400. All the other bearings can be had for say $100 bucks....Shop around, it can be done!!!!
