Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

LS1 to LS6

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 01:01 PM
  #1  
SSmoked99's Avatar
Thread Starter
Launching!
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 284
Likes: 0
From: Texas
Default LS1 to LS6

I wanted to get a LS6 motor, but I heard that its the same as the LS1 with different heads. Does anyone know about this??
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 01:03 PM
  #2  
SSmoked99's Avatar
Thread Starter
Launching!
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 284
Likes: 0
From: Texas
Default

Is the LS2 better than the LS6??????
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 02:24 PM
  #3  
snake charmer's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (118)
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,510
Likes: 1
From: The south
Default

ls6 engines have 243 heads that are true ls6 heads, not sure about the cubes but i know a ls1 is a 342 and an ls2 is a 402
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 02:45 PM
  #4  
gtofan's Avatar
Teching In
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by SSmoked99
I wanted to get a LS6 motor, but I heard that its the same as the LS1 with different heads. Does anyone know about this??
LS6 has better breathing heads, more compression, more aggressive cam, and different piston material. It's relatively easy to make LS6 power out of a late model LS1 since they both use the same block and intake manifold.
LS2 has larger bore and more displacement than LS1/LS6, LS6 heads, even higher compression, and a variety of other improvements including electronic throttle control.
LS1 - 346 cu. in., 350 hp
LS6 - 346 cu. in., 405 hp
LS2 - 366 cu. in., 400 hp
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 04:03 PM
  #5  
SouthFL.02.SS's Avatar
!LS1 11 Second Club
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 7,133
Likes: 2
From: Miami
Default

LS2=364ci

An LS1 with LS6 Heads and LS6 Cam will perform as well as a true LS6.
LS6 has larger ports in the oil passages within the block.

Edit: Any Heads/Cam combo from our sponsors will kick the crap out of an LS6 swap.
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 04:08 PM
  #6  
stangkiller's Avatar
TECH Regular
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 463
Likes: 0
From: va baby!
Default

Originally Posted by SouthFL.02.SS
LS2=364ci

An LS1 with LS6 Heads and LS6 Cam will perform as well as a true LS6.
LS6 has larger ports in the oil passages within the block.

Edit: Any Heads/Cam combo from our sponsors will kick the crap out of an LS6 swap.

how come most people get aftermarket heads and cam instead of going with the ls6 upgrade package? especially 01 & 02 ls1's since they already have the ls6 intake.
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 04:09 PM
  #7  
00 Trans Ram's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 556
Likes: 0
From: New Orleans, LA
Default

I thought that the LS6 also had siamesed water jackets around the cylinders for better cooling? Or is that the LS2? Or, maybe the LS7?

Can't keep 'em all straight!!
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 04:10 PM
  #8  
SouthFL.02.SS's Avatar
!LS1 11 Second Club
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 7,133
Likes: 2
From: Miami
Default

Originally Posted by stangkiller
how come most people get aftermarket heads and cam instead of going with the ls6 upgrade package? especially 01 & 02 ls1's since they already have the ls6 intake.
Any Heads/Cam combo from our sponsors will kick the crap out of an LS6 swap.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-5

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-9

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 04:18 PM
  #9  
Casperws6's Avatar
TECH Apprentice
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 387
Likes: 0
From: Cali
Default

Originally Posted by SouthFL.02.SS
Any Heads/Cam combo from our sponsors will kick the crap out of an LS6 swap.
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 04:26 PM
  #10  
stangkiller's Avatar
TECH Regular
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 463
Likes: 0
From: va baby!
Default

Originally Posted by SouthFL.02.SS
Any Heads/Cam combo from our sponsors will kick the crap out of an LS6 swap.
even the lowest h/c from your sponsors?
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 04:31 PM
  #11  
SouthFL.02.SS's Avatar
!LS1 11 Second Club
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 7,133
Likes: 2
From: Miami
Default

Originally Posted by stangkiller
even the lowest h/c from your sponsors?
A budget Stage 1 (5.7 or 5.3)head, plus a TR220 (baby) cam from Thunder will probably yield more power.

For a bit more money, TEA's Stage 1.5 "Budget" heads outperform many other's Stage 1-2.5 heads. Mate them to a mild/mid cam like the TSP 225 and you're money- breaking 400+rwhp for sure.

Or, just get a cam like the FUTRAL F13 or the TSP 233/239 RevII and you're breaking 400rwhp with stock heads, assuming M6 setup.
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 05:36 PM
  #12  
HioSSilver's Avatar
10 Second Club
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 6,129
Likes: 645
From: Winchester, VA
Default

I've got a crate ls6 in my camaro and have out ran a many h/c cars. It's a perfect swap for sreetability, reliability and efficeincy (20-22mpg city 26-29mpg hway). 407 rwhp 119 plus trap speeds. Haven't had it back on the dyno since the last round of bolt ons but I'm sure it'll make 420 rwhp now. Best of all it's still stock internally.
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 05:40 PM
  #13  
Steve Burger's Avatar
LS1TECH Sponsor
iTrader: (33)
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 4,399
Likes: 0
From: Out on the farm in Central IL
Default

407 RWHP from a stock LS6 cam and stock LS6 heads motor? Wow!
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 05:41 PM
  #14  
SouthFL.02.SS's Avatar
!LS1 11 Second Club
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 7,133
Likes: 2
From: Miami
Default

Originally Posted by HioSSilver
I've got a crate ls6 in my camaro and have out ran a many h/c cars. It's a perfect swap for sreetability, reliability and efficeincy (20-22mpg city 26-29mpg hway). 407 rwhp 119 plus trap speeds. Haven't had it back on the dyno since the last round of bolt ons but I'm sure it'll make 420 rwhp now. Best of all it's still stock internally.
Those are some sweet numbers and times! I learn something new every day.
Best numbers I've seen for the setup. What kind of tire were you running?
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 05:41 PM
  #15  
gtofan's Avatar
Teching In
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by SouthFL.02.SS
LS2=364ci

An LS1 with LS6 Heads and LS6 Cam will perform as well as a true LS6.
LS6 has larger ports in the oil passages within the block.

Edit: Any Heads/Cam combo from our sponsors will kick the crap out of an LS6 swap.
Hm, guess I was off a little about the LS2's true displacement. Actually, it's 366.142463 cubic inches. That's according to any standard conversion table for 6.0 liters, anyway - unless it's actually less than 6.0 liters, of course....
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 05:47 PM
  #16  
HioSSilver's Avatar
10 Second Club
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 6,129
Likes: 645
From: Winchester, VA
Default

I run on 18" road race rain tires witch is how I drive it everyday. Thats why the 60' suck. I'm sure it would go faster with a drag type set-up but I know it would probally break the rear. Not enough funds to fix that right now.
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2005 | 07:31 PM
  #17  
spy2520's Avatar
12 Second Club
20 Year Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,513
Likes: 1
From: Waldorf, MD
Default

Originally Posted by gtofan
Hm, guess I was off a little about the LS2's true displacement. Actually, it's 366.142463 cubic inches. That's according to any standard conversion table for 6.0 liters, anyway - unless it's actually less than 6.0 liters, of course....
Its never what they say it is, an ls1 is around 5669.9 cm^3 which translates directly to 5.6699 liters. If the ls2 is 364 ci, then its probably more than likely is 5.9 and some change liters. A 427 ci engine is a little less than 7L. Thats how you get a 302 and 305 and they're both called 5.0L. I bet a 5.7L GM engine isnt the same ci as the chrysler 5.7L Hemi engine. Thats why it is called a 5.7L. All manufacturers round to a popular number, in some cases they'll even round down to get the number they want. One reason might be thats its pretty hard to get an exact number when making the engine, its possible, but not really worth going through the trouble.
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:32 AM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE