New Patriot Prices Now In Effect
08-30-2005, 06:29 PM
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What kind of power could one expect from these head with these additional mods on an A4 Tranny.
224/228 XER .590 (or there abouts...needs to be emission legal)
LT Headers
Free Flowing Air intake
Underdrive pulley
Ported TB
Good Tune
Think it could get near 430 rwhp or is it going to be more like 410 rwhp? I know a lot will depend on the tune, but can you give me a ballpark? Thanks.
224/228 XER .590 (or there abouts...needs to be emission legal)
LT Headers
Free Flowing Air intake
Underdrive pulley
Ported TB
Good Tune
Think it could get near 430 rwhp or is it going to be more like 410 rwhp? I know a lot will depend on the tune, but can you give me a ballpark? Thanks.
08-30-2005, 08:47 PM
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I need to know this as well. Are they LQ9 heads? LS6 "style" is what worries me. Are they actual LS6 castings to begin with?
Originally Posted by Billiumss
Is the 035 the same as the 317 heads?
Are they brand new or take offs?
What are the flow numbers for the 035/317 heads?
Is there a core charge or is it a "real" flat out price?
Are they brand new or take offs?
What are the flow numbers for the 035/317 heads?
Is there a core charge or is it a "real" flat out price?
08-30-2005, 08:58 PM
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Well, I am in the market for some new heads (cam, pushrods, ported oil pump, timing chain, new lifters as well).. But, how do these LS6 "style" Stage III heads compare to say the PRC Stage 2.5 heads? As that was what I was leaning towards.
And do you guys know what would be the biggest cam you can do without having any PTV clearance issues with these LS6 style heads?? Or will it be the same PTV clearance as the PRC's 2.5?
Let me know. Thanks
And do you guys know what would be the biggest cam you can do without having any PTV clearance issues with these LS6 style heads?? Or will it be the same PTV clearance as the PRC's 2.5?
Let me know. Thanks
08-31-2005, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Billiumss
Is the 035 the same as the 317 heads?
Are they brand new or take offs?
What are the flow numbers for the 035/317 heads?
Is there a core charge or is it a "real" flat out price?
Are they brand new or take offs?
What are the flow numbers for the 035/317 heads?
Is there a core charge or is it a "real" flat out price?
These heads begin as a new 035 GM raw castings. These runners are the same as the 243 runners. Because these heads are a raw casting that is .050" over on the surfaces, we are able to pre heat the head, weld the combustion chamber to a smaller chamber, heat treat the heads to OEM specs, and the CNC machine ths desired chamber in the head while maintaining OEM deck height.
Here is a link to our flow numbers
http://sites.reachtheworld.tv/waterN...05234&DID=1225
No core charges !!
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08-31-2005, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by red90cobra
what do the stage three flow? and what's the casting numbers? are they ls6 heads or the 6.0 heads? and can you choose the length of the valve?
These are our LS6 style heads which are derived from 035 GM castings. We use a standard length valve.
08-31-2005, 07:40 AM
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Our stage II heads can be equipped with a 2.05"/1.60" which would be compariable to other companies stage 2.5 or 3 etc. Our heads are equipped with products that other head companies do not feature with their heads or that they may charge "upgrade" fees for. All of our LS6 style heads will have as much if not more PTV clearance as other CNC ported OEM castings. This is because even with a 59cc chamber, our heads will be at OEM deck height.
08-31-2005, 09:43 AM
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Thanks Gunnar Yea i just orderd my heads from him yesterday... Really nice guy. BTW i sent you an e-mail about a reciept or w/e.
i cant wait to get them ! Also orderd my cam and stall weeehooo!!
id just on this deal guys.
Joe
i cant wait to get them ! Also orderd my cam and stall weeehooo!!
id just on this deal guys.
Joe
08-31-2005, 10:48 AM
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If you didn't do any chamber work or milling of the head, what would be the chamber size be when all said and done? 72cc or bigger?
The reason I ask this cause I might consider them for Forced Induction and would like to have a big chamber to lower CR.
The reason I ask this cause I might consider them for Forced Induction and would like to have a big chamber to lower CR.
08-31-2005, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Billiumss
If you didn't do any chamber work or milling of the head, what would be the chamber size be when all said and done? 72cc or bigger?
The reason I ask this cause I might consider them for Forced Induction and would like to have a big chamber to lower CR.
The reason I ask this cause I might consider them for Forced Induction and would like to have a big chamber to lower CR.
08-31-2005, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunnar@Patriot
Our stage II heads can be equipped with a 2.05"/1.60" which would be compariable to other companies stage 2.5 or 3 etc. Our heads are equipped with products that other head companies do not feature with their heads or that they may charge "upgrade" fees for. All of our LS6 style heads will have as much if not more PTV clearance as other CNC ported OEM castings. This is because even with a 59cc chamber, our heads will be at OEM deck height.
08-31-2005, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by JZ'sTA
Stage 3 is exactly the same but features larger valves. Probally not the best choice for most stock cubic inch cars. Many would use the stage 2's.
08-31-2005, 08:49 PM
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Probally not. The valve is a bit big but Tony at AFR says his 225's with 2.08 valves will work great on stock cubic inch motors.
Therefore I have to believe the stage 3 patroits will be fine as well.
Will a big power gain be made over the stage 2's? I doubt it unless you run a monster cam that needs more air up top.
Therefore I have to believe the stage 3 patroits will be fine as well.
Will a big power gain be made over the stage 2's? I doubt it unless you run a monster cam that needs more air up top.