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Old 10-07-2005, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Ben01C5
I would like to know what headers you are running (cats/no cats) and if you are running a pulley.

My H/C combo numbers are below, and only slightly better then yours.
im running Kooks 1 3/4 with random tech cats. and ASP pulley. These headers make good power top end..perfect for when I race from a roll....
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Originally Posted by eamador11
ECS (East Coast Supercharging) swapped out my stealth cam for the AFR 6016 cam. (224/228 .581-.588@114) The reason for this was to have a cam that better matched the flow characteristics of the 205s. After doing alot of research about AFRs, I have learned that these heads perform best with cams that have 4 degrees higher on the exhaust side with a minimum of 224 intake duration. For my own taste, I wanted my car to be mild mannered and have stock like idle yet pull hard and smooth at WOT. So I chose the AFR cam.

I dynoed at 415.7RWHP 383.7RWT. Although I didnt peak much higher, the torque curve is flat and the power under the curve is excellent! That is exactly what I wanted out of my car.

Driveability is still excellent; no bucking, no surging, and I can still cruise as low as 1000rpm without issues. You cannot feel any shake or lope inside the car. To me, details like that is important. At WOT this car is an animal, very easy to go sideways if your not careful. I have to re-learn the limits of this car all over again but its alot of fun to drive. Car sounds very nice too when you get on it.

Anyway, its all about combination when doing H/C setups and what you want out of your ride so choose your parts wisely if your going to go N/A

Heres a small vid clip of my car at idle...

AFR cam 224/228
Now that you've put some miles on it, how's the car doing?

I'll be installing almost the same combo on my Camaro. The only differences will be 62cc heads and a 0.040" gasket. It will be dyno and drive tuned by "Slowhawk" @ Dez Racing (hopefully!).

I can't wait!
Old 06-28-2006, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ShevrolayZ28
Now that you've put some miles on it, how's the car doing?

I'll be installing almost the same combo on my Camaro. The only differences will be 62cc heads and a 0.040" gasket. It will be dyno and drive tuned by "Slowhawk" @ Dez Racing (hopefully!).

I can't wait!
I absolutley love it! Its just an awsome h/c combo. I just added 4.10s and daaam, this is now the package I was waiting for. perfect compliment to the car! you will love the h/c setup...very streetable yet its a total animal at WOT!!!!

Ask slowhawk if he can do Speed Density tuning. That is the latest tune style and is alot more customizable than LS1 edit. (more tables available to him) thats my next mod from ECS.
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I just got back from speed inc. with the set up in my sig. Very similar to eamador- I pulled 429hp and 392 torque with the 4.10 rear and some pretty heavy Z06 repros/nittos- I'm really happy (understatement). Plenty of upside to my setup if I want to chase the last few numbers----- but I'm not sure that I can be convinced to spend any more $ on my car (yeah right).

I'll post the graph when they send it to me.
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Originally Posted by bandit_99
I just got back from speed inc. with the set up in my sig. Very similar to eamador- I pulled 429hp and 392 torque with the 4.10 rear and some pretty heavy Z06 repros/nittos- I'm really happy (understatement). Plenty of upside to my setup if I want to chase the last few numbers----- but I'm not sure that I can be convinced to spend any more $ on my car (yeah right).

I'll post the graph when they send it to me.
Those are some great results. yeah post up the dyno sheet..only difference i see is that you prob have a little higher static CR than mine.
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Originally Posted by eamador11
Those are some great results. yeah post up the dyno sheet..only difference i see is that you prob have a little higher static CR than mine.
Yep, I went another .006 after speaking with Tony.

I did some 30 to 100 runs tonight and it pulls like a freight train. Confirmed that 4k clutch slips on hot drag radials make my Luk Stage 2 smoke like a brush fire. Guess I'll try and save some coin and try for an LS7 clutch.

You can see my dyno graph here:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/533369-another-afr-224-228-install.html

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eamador11, it's a great setup and the ECS guys are great too. I dyno'ed 420/388 with the same setup and that's before the LG long tubes and Crane rockers.

I had switched to the Vinci 228/232 .551/.551 112 with the Crane 1.8 rockers. The car made great power between 3000 - 5000 RPM's (sorry, no dyno), but I could feel the difference down low as well as in drivability, so I switched back to the setup listed in my sig.

Again, it is a great, drivable setup that is proven by many users to get good track times and a lot of grins.
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Originally Posted by Byter
eamador11, it's a great setup and the ECS guys are great too. I dyno'ed 420/388 with the same setup and that's before the LG long tubes and Crane rockers.

I had switched to the Vinci 228/232 .551/.551 112 with the Crane 1.8 rockers. The car made great power between 3000 - 5000 RPM's (sorry, no dyno), but I could feel the difference down low as well as in drivability, so I switched back to the setup listed in my sig.

Again, it is a great, drivable setup that is proven by many users to get good track times and a lot of grins.
dam, you switch cams as much as i change underwear! now you need 4.10s to complete the package. ECS did mine a month ago and im still kicking myself for not doing this mod alot sooner. they put you int he powerband at any gear, its amazing! oh and im still 31mpg highway. gotta love it

you also proved once again, bigger cams isnt always better, its really about h/c combination.
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Nice!
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Originally Posted by Vortech
So you have AFR 205's? Are they milled? If so how much? See I don't understand how Tony made 480 rwhp with that cam? He had the Fast 90/90, EWP, LG longtubes(worth 10 horse over everyhting else), heads milled to 62cc, but I'm not sure if used the AFR .040 cometic gaskets. I'm on the fence right now as i'm thinking of going with the AFR G5X3 Fast 90/90 LG headers route as this has made over 480rwhp if the heads are milled to 59cc-then Tony with heads milled 3cc less and a cam with about 10 degrees less duration makes just as much power?
I know Tony was running a CF driveshaft and I believe a very lightweight exedy clutch/flywheel that Pat G runs now. (not positive on the clutch though) that combined with pulley, EWP and other little details could add up big.
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Does anyone with this setup have an idle clip through an open cutout?
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You guys in this thread that are using the afr 205's in your combinations, did you upgrade to the afr 8019 springs or did you just keep the standard afr 8017 springs that came originally on the heads?
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Originally Posted by vader99
You guys in this thread that are using the afr 205's in your combinations, did you upgrade to the afr 8019 springs or did you just keep the standard afr 8017 springs that came originally on the heads?
wow thread back from the grave! I kept the springs that came with the AFR heads that were sold by TSP... They are Patriot Gold Duals...which I believe are the same as 8019 only without the gold paint......pushing 35Kmiles on them now.
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Heres an idle clip a few years later and adding the FAST90/90

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSQfvovH7do
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i have a similiar setup and mine pulls hard
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Originally Posted by blackls1ta00
i have a similiar setup and mine pulls hard
heck yeah, 2nd and 3rd gear pulling all the way to 6500 feels bad ***!



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