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XER 224 cam LS6 heads and Headers only 378 rwhp WTF????

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Old 10-11-2005, 09:51 PM
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Default XER 224 cam LS6 heads and Headers only 378 rwhp WTF????

I just recently did a H/C swap. The upgrades includes CompCam XER 224/224 @ 114 LSA 581/581 lift, LS6 Stock Heads, Comp 918 valve springs, Ti retainers, TSP pushrods, Pacesetter Long Tubes, High flow cats and Y pipe. The car only made 378 RWHP, untuned runing 13.5 - 14 A/F ratio. I know I need a tune but the numbers are diappointing. How much more HP can a tune get me, I wanted to break 400 rwhp but I don't know if I can make it. I dynoed 330 rwhp before the H/C swap. Is there any chance of me getting over 400 RWHP?
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Yes you will reach 400 RWHP tuned. Also, that A/F ratio needs to get down to 12.9 or so. Do you have @ least a 78mm ported throttle body on that LS6 intake & heads?
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Do you have a ported TB, underdrive pulley and a LS6 intake? Are those numbers locked? Don't forget LS6 heads don't like anymore than 22-24 degress of total timing. Get it tuned-don't forget you have an auto. Numbers are not everyhting-I bet that this is going to be a stout combo at the track.
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Yes I do have a stock ported 78mm throttle body, ASP pullys, and many many other bolt ons.
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what about, as posted above, the converter locked? that makes a difference!
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What tune does it have?
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those numbers seem right.
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Don't have a tune yet, thats the problem I guess.
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Originally Posted by SUX2BU
those numbers seem right.


is that mean that I won't get any more HP? or just mean that it is right for untuned?
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Originally Posted by SUX2BU
those numbers seem right.
not for that cam and LS6 heads....400rwhp should be pretty atainable after a tune
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do you have a good intake ? LS6, Fast etc.........
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Its a 02 WS6 TA so yes its got a LS6 intake.
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Was that dyno pull thru the cutout or through the flowmaster (-10 thru 15hp)?
Get a tune. And get back to us.
Also, even with stock ls6 heads (+15hp), your numbers aren't too bad for a mild stalled A4. You may not break 400rwhp but you should run some great times at the track.
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I run a flowmaster, you guys think its really a loss of 15hp? (i dunno what type it cost me $60 installed)
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Originally Posted by ATLHwyRacer
I run a flowmaster, you guys think its really a loss of 15hp? (i dunno what type it cost me $60 installed)
The Flowmaster split chamber catback had been proven to be one of the most restrictive catbacks, time and time again. Even the Flowmaster single in/single out mufflers are outperformed by Magnaflow, Borla, etc. It shouldn't make you want to go rip it off- it's a matter of about 10hp, but it's something that has been proven. If the sound quality is to your liking, and you're not concerned about 10hp, don't worry about it.
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The tune will make a big difference, a BIG difference.
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The dyno numbers are with the cutout opened. And yes I need a tune, but I was told that it would'nt make that much of a difference. Any ideas how much difference can a tune make? Right now my computer is not giving a SES lights at all and idles good until the A/C comes on.
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a good tune is what you need. a GOOD tune should get you to 400 or over
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Originally Posted by GREATWALLTA
The dyno numbers are with the cutout opened. And yes I need a tune, but I was told that it would'nt make that much of a difference. Any ideas how much difference can a tune make? Right now my computer is not giving a SES lights at all and idles good until the A/C comes on.
A tune makes a whole lot of difference, no matter what your SES light says. A tune ensures optimal A/F ratio and timing throughout the rev range. A good tune milks every last pony out of your setup. Good for 15-20 rwhp on a setup like yours.
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dont you have a bad lifter?!? sorry the other thread made me wonder?@?



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