combo idea's, inside if interested
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combo idea's, inside if interested 100% street driven stock LS1 block combo's for swap into 79 camaro!
number 1.
custom comp cam 224/224 .565/.565 110lsa 106icl (yes its fine on the street, and made 400/400 stock heads)
Crane Gold Quick-Lift rockers 1.80
stage 2 LS6 heads (10.7 CR)
FAST 90/90
custom 32" 1 3/4" headers with HVMC
3" X-pipe out the back (79 camaro had duals)
number 2.
same as above but...
LS6 intake
same headers, 2.5" X-pipe out the back
number 1.
custom comp cam 224/224 .565/.565 110lsa 106icl (yes its fine on the street, and made 400/400 stock heads)
Crane Gold Quick-Lift rockers 1.80
stage 2 LS6 heads (10.7 CR)
FAST 90/90
custom 32" 1 3/4" headers with HVMC
3" X-pipe out the back (79 camaro had duals)
number 2.
same as above but...
LS6 intake
same headers, 2.5" X-pipe out the back
Opinions. Cam is too far advanced to make good power at all rpm. Consider having it ground at 110ICL (no advance). You will make 10-15 more rwhp and still have strong low end torque.
The FAST 90/90 is definitely the way to go. I gained more from a ported FAST 90/90 than I did with headers (27 vs 22 rwhp gain).
Don't do the Crane rockers. Too many people are having issues with them. Results are all over the place. Some good, some bad. You'll have fewer headaches with the stock rockers.
The FAST 90/90 is definitely the way to go. I gained more from a ported FAST 90/90 than I did with headers (27 vs 22 rwhp gain).
Don't do the Crane rockers. Too many people are having issues with them. Results are all over the place. Some good, some bad. You'll have fewer headaches with the stock rockers.
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2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
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thanks Patrick... btw... your setup makes me 
the cam on the 106icl on stock heads (full bolt on though) makes 380#'s and 360hp by 2800... peak HP of 400 is at 5900 and carries too 6500 before dropping off.
I dont want to shift past 6500 on stock long block, so that is perfect for me.
but I will keep that in consideration though, thank you for the thought!
it wont be a track car. it will wont see track. just a street driven G-Machine
oh, and what about the exhaust ?
the cam on the 106icl on stock heads (full bolt on though) makes 380#'s and 360hp by 2800... peak HP of 400 is at 5900 and carries too 6500 before dropping off.
I dont want to shift past 6500 on stock long block, so that is perfect for me.
but I will keep that in consideration though, thank you for the thought!
it wont be a track car. it will wont see track. just a street driven G-Machine
oh, and what about the exhaust ?
Headers with HVMC are a solid investment. I'd do dual 3" to the x-pipe, then neck down and do dual 2 1/2" the rest of the way back.
I still have to highly recommend you consider grinding that cam at 110ICL. At 106ICL, your intake closing point is 38 degrees ABDC (at .050"). Way too early IMO. You'll make better power EVERYWHERE with the 110ICL. Your intake closing point will be 42 degrees and your overlap will happen right at top dead center (which will allow you to make very well rounded power). Like I said, 106 ICL you'll make peak power at around 5800-5900. With 110 ICL, you'll make peak power closer to 6100 and will make 10-15 more rwhp in the process (while still maintaining the power down low of the 106 ICL cam).
I still have to highly recommend you consider grinding that cam at 110ICL. At 106ICL, your intake closing point is 38 degrees ABDC (at .050"). Way too early IMO. You'll make better power EVERYWHERE with the 110ICL. Your intake closing point will be 42 degrees and your overlap will happen right at top dead center (which will allow you to make very well rounded power). Like I said, 106 ICL you'll make peak power at around 5800-5900. With 110 ICL, you'll make peak power closer to 6100 and will make 10-15 more rwhp in the process (while still maintaining the power down low of the 106 ICL cam).
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so the same cam ground on a 110lsa and 110icl ?
will it still make the trq (380 or so #'s at 2800)
thats what I really car about. I want the most trq at really low RPM where I drive 90% of the time?
thanks
will it still make the trq (380 or so #'s at 2800)
thats what I really car about. I want the most trq at really low RPM where I drive 90% of the time?
thanks
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so the same cam ground on a 110lsa and 110icl ?
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oh okay, I actually think im understanding that! im learning, cool!!
so the same same 224/224 .565/.565 cam on a 110lsa and a 110icl will actually produce more trq from driving range 2500-5000 AND make more hp than a 106icl ???
is that what im gathering here?
thank you so much Patrick!!
so the same same 224/224 .565/.565 cam on a 110lsa and a 110icl will actually produce more trq from driving range 2500-5000 AND make more hp than a 106icl ???
is that what im gathering here?
thank you so much Patrick!!
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so... Patrick.... one more bothersome question (sorry just trying to learn this stuff)
so we have now set a 224 with a 110lsa and 110icl...
what about lift. speed, inc told me that I will gain power and about 15#'s of trq going to the XE-R lobes (.581 lift) from the XE but it will begin to buck on me at low rpm.
will only a .581 lift hurt drive ability that much??
so we have now set a 224 with a 110lsa and 110icl...
what about lift. speed, inc told me that I will gain power and about 15#'s of trq going to the XE-R lobes (.581 lift) from the XE but it will begin to buck on me at low rpm.
will only a .581 lift hurt drive ability that much??