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Old 10-26-2005, 04:31 PM
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and how long and wich hole do they go in. thanks
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5/16" wooden dowl cut 4 inches longer than a cam. Pull the cam retainer plate off an there will be a hole on each side of the cam.. just slide those babies in there, one for each side... works wonderfully.
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Originally Posted by gomer
5/16" wooden dowl cut 4 inches longer than a cam. Pull the cam retainer plate off an there will be a hole on each side of the cam.. just slide those babies in there, one for each side... works wonderfully.

Works like a charm.
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I think a 5/16 rod, about 24 in and the two small holes. One on each side of the cam. I would double check the length before you cut the rod. I just done one. Take all the precautions. I dropped a lifter. Not fun at all. A 9 hour job turn into a 24 hour job. Had pull the head drop the pan and lift the motor.
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thanks guys
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Or you can get 5/16 rolled steel rods from home depot.
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I used 5/16 steel rods-they fit on the driver side no problem but on the passenger side it only went in half way? Why was that?
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you are probably barely poking a lifter. Spin the cam around really fast by hand a few times and try it again.
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I've used the same 1/4" aluminum rods on 3 cam swaps now. I used tape to measure the length of the cam so I knew when all the lifters were hung.

1/4" works perfectly
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5/16 brake line! Cheap and easy to make special tool. I ovaled the line a little in a vice, and bent a handle into the line so I could wedge the lifters in there bores. Make a point at one end with a hammer and make them a few inches longer than the cam.
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5/16 brake line! Cheap and easy to make special tool. I ovaled the line a little in a vice, and bent a handle into the line so I could wedge the lifters in there bores. Make a point at one end with a hammer and make them a few inches longer than the cam.
You should market that...It comes up too often than not.
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The rod doesn't hold up the lifters, it prevents them from falling all the way out. Not sure about 1/4", it may be too small. When my 5/16th steel rods were in place, I looked around with a boroscope (2002 motor) and 5/16 looked like it would just catch them if they started to slide.
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Well most of the time just spinning the cam they will stick on their own, but that is ballsy to do it that way. I have seen it done several times. I used pen magnets, and it was kind of a PITA. Next cam is getting the 5/16 dowel treatment!
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I'll be starting my swap soon.
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Originally Posted by eb02z06
I used 5/16 steel rods-they fit on the driver side no problem but on the passenger side it only went in half way? Why was that?
I have the exact same problem. No matter how fast I spin the cam it only goes in 1/2 way on the passenger side. Any ideas ?
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Originally Posted by 68roadrunner
I have the exact same problem. No matter how fast I spin the cam it only goes in 1/2 way on the passenger side. Any ideas ?
See post #8, probably blocked by a lifter. Spin cam around fast by hand to get lifter up

BtW - the thread was ~16 years old
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Originally Posted by 99 Black Bird T/A
See post #8, probably blocked by a lifter. Spin cam around fast by hand to get lifter up

BtW - the thread was ~16 years old
tried that. Did not work. I assume the lifter tray is shot and won’t hold the lifter all the way up ? The head probably needs to be pulled anyway?

Let me know what you all think ?




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Have you tried pushing inward on the rod whilst you spin the cam? The cam might lift the lifter up and allow the rod to go in if you are applying pressure at the same time.
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Originally Posted by Kawabuggy
Have you tried pushing inward on the rod whilst you spin the cam? The cam might lift the lifter up and allow the rod to go in if you are applying pressure at the same time.

I tried that it did not work
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Remove pushrod. Put pen magnet down in there and lift up the lifter. This should allow you to push in the retaining dowel.
I have used 16 of those pen magnets along with clips to do swaps. Before I realized that the dowels would work.
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