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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 04:13 PM
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Question Scat crank and rods?

no one i have seen is running scat. why?
is it just untested in these cars? just not a real big name to ls1 people?
i know its big in the mustang world, and the all motor cars i have talked to.
any one have any luck good or bad?
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 04:22 PM
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I didn't know they had an LS-1 crank. Price? Strokes?
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All I see are billet cranks. WOWZERS$$$$$$
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 04:35 PM
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not sure what they have for cranks. i would think they offer more then the one.
im waiting on a call back.
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 04:50 PM
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There actually very good, but have just crept into the LS-1 market. They offer 2 cranks types. The standard 4340 is around $1700 bucks and the billet is about $2400. I am using there rods in my build and had planned to use their crank, but they didn't offer anything larger than a 4.125" stroke at this time, so I had to go with Lunati. It's top notch stuff in my book. I wouldn't hesitate to use anything they have.
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 04:51 PM
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I was planning on using their rods for a future 408. If they made a crank I would use it as well. What rods do the sponsors use in their short/long blocks? I would not be surprised if that is what they use. I have heard of Scat because I built a fuel injected alcohol 355 for a dragster and we bought scat rods. Great product for the price as far as I know.
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 05:30 PM
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There actually very good, but have just crept into the LS-1 market. They offer 2 cranks types. The standard 4340 is around $1700 bucks and the billet is about $2400. I am using there rods in my build and had planned to use their crank, but they didn't offer anything larger than a 4.125" stroke at this time, so I had to go with Lunati. It's top notch stuff in my book. I wouldn't hesitate to use anything they have.
i called, they offer 2 like you say. one is 1995, and the other was like 2600
big bucks, but if its worth it.
also, there rods, he said they would take the 900-1000 hp im looking for wich is a good thing, and they went for 500
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Originally Posted by Noyzee
i called, they offer 2 like you say. one is 1995, and the other was like 2600
big bucks, but if its worth it.
also, there rods, he said they would take the 900-1000 hp im looking for wich is a good thing, and they went for 500
Sounds about right. The prices they quoted you are for an individual buyer. Mine was part of a complete motor build, so the person building the motor was giving me a price break. My Lunati was $2100 for comparison. On a price break of course.
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 08:01 AM
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Sounds about right. The prices they quoted you are for an individual buyer. Mine was part of a complete motor build, so the person building the motor was giving me a price break. My Lunati was $2100 for comparison. On a price break of course.
which is better? i know the strong parts are the same, but one must be finished better?
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The only thing that Lunati might have over the SCAT is the "no twist" design. You'd have to go to Lunati's sight to read about that. Other than that, it looked as if the SCAT offered everything the Lunati did. Lunati also makes a pro-billet, but I'm sure it's upwards of $2600+ to.
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 07:13 PM
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I wonder how much that billet Scat crank weighs?

I'm still on the fence about which crank to go with. I too, didn't realize they had entered the LS1 market.

I was planning on Carrillo rods. But they are big money, somewhere around $1800 bucks. I think the Pro Billet Lunati rods are only around $1200.
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 12:14 AM
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You guys must be planning for some serious torque, RPMs and track abuse... because those are some pricey heavy duty components! Isn't Carrillo used on most Nextel Cup cars.... the ones that push out 800hp at 8,000rpms for a few hours straight?!
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by FastKat
You guys must be planning for some serious torque, RPMs and track abuse... because those are some pricey heavy duty components! Isn't Carrillo used on most Nextel Cup cars.... the ones that push out 800hp at 8,000rpms for a few hours straight?!
Exactlly. In most applications, there is really no need for this stuff. The standard SCAT crank would hold just about anything you could throw at it. Unless one is planning on pushing over 800 rwhp consistantly, I really see no need in going with anything other than the SCAT or Eagle. The Lunati, Billet SCAT, Carillio rods, and so forth are for 1,000+ hp applications. There aren't to many of us around here that are able to push those limits. The only reason I went with Lunati is because they were the only ones that offered a 4.185" crank without having to go through a custom order process. If Eagle would have had a custom order process for the stroke I wanted, I deffinatlly would have saved the $1300.
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 01:05 AM
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I'm going big dog with a 'charged 408. Street car, planning on over 800rwhp. Running most likely 110 Cam2. Gforce built T56, and a Billingsley Racing Fabbed 9".

There's no reason for me NOT to step it up to the higher priced components.

I'm sure Brad will be up there as well. He already has been afterall.
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 12:25 PM
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the reason i dont want eagle is do to the finish work. the lunatie is knife edged, polished, gun drilled ect ect ect. it is the caddy of crank shafts.
as for the rods, i did some looking and found the rods i will use. they have already been to 1700 fwp!!!

and for what its worth, my car will see 7000 rpm and 800-1000 rwhp
i hope!!
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by BAD *** TA WS6
There's no reason for me NOT to step it up to the higher priced components.
You said your reason right there. HIGHER PRICE. Why pay $2600 for a crank if you don't need it? The 4340 SCAT would handle over 800 hp no problem. I think what most don't understand is how much a crank can actually take. The Eagle could hold 800hp and only cost you $795. Would I put it in a motor that I was expecting 800rwhp out of? No, but I would use the $1700 SCAT. The only reason I went with Lunati is because of the stroke size. Money wasn't really a concern when it came to getting the cubic inches I wanted. What I'm basically trying to say is, don't waste the money with out reasearching what a particular crank can handle. You'd probablly be surprised.
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