Help Needed Asap!
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From: Fayetteville, NC
Help Needed Asap! This is on my '00 Corvette
Ok, my heads & cam install was going pretty smooth until I tried to take the cam out without using something to hold the lifters up . A lifter fell, & sounded like it hit the oil pan, no problem right, nope, dropped the oil pan, but seems it got stuck behind the windage tray, which as you know, is behind the second oil pan. Using a magnet didn't work, so I thought I would remove the lifter holder (my heads were already off), to see if I could see it. Well, the other 3 lifters fell at that point, DAMN IT!! Ok, don't panic, yeah right. Well in order to remove the oil pan to get to the windage tray, you have to lift the motor up a bit, or so I thought. So I remove the bottom bolts for the motor mounts, & jack it up a bit, of course, the pan still won't drop. So I thought I would just drop the craddle, which I did. Ok, got the oil pan out, windage tray out, & recovered all the lifters. Now here's the next problem. As I was lifting the craddle back up into position, everything was lined up fine except for the drivers side motor mount bolt. SO now I've got everything in it's proper hole except the ds motor mount bolt. Cake right, just jack the motor up some more, line it up, & drop into place, wrong, I go to lift the motor up, & it lifts the whole car off the jack stands!! It almost seems that the motor is tweaked of center a bit from being lifted. But the passenger side mount lined up. Maybe it's the cradle, but all mounting bolts for it lined up, only the drivers side motor mount hole is off. After a while of wrestling with it, I called it a night.
Little help guys, i'm in need.
-Tucker
PS: I know all of this could have been avioded if I had used some dowells to hold the lifters up, what can I say, I'm a dumba$$.
Ok, my heads & cam install was going pretty smooth until I tried to take the cam out without using something to hold the lifters up . A lifter fell, & sounded like it hit the oil pan, no problem right, nope, dropped the oil pan, but seems it got stuck behind the windage tray, which as you know, is behind the second oil pan. Using a magnet didn't work, so I thought I would remove the lifter holder (my heads were already off), to see if I could see it. Well, the other 3 lifters fell at that point, DAMN IT!! Ok, don't panic, yeah right. Well in order to remove the oil pan to get to the windage tray, you have to lift the motor up a bit, or so I thought. So I remove the bottom bolts for the motor mounts, & jack it up a bit, of course, the pan still won't drop. So I thought I would just drop the craddle, which I did. Ok, got the oil pan out, windage tray out, & recovered all the lifters. Now here's the next problem. As I was lifting the craddle back up into position, everything was lined up fine except for the drivers side motor mount bolt. SO now I've got everything in it's proper hole except the ds motor mount bolt. Cake right, just jack the motor up some more, line it up, & drop into place, wrong, I go to lift the motor up, & it lifts the whole car off the jack stands!! It almost seems that the motor is tweaked of center a bit from being lifted. But the passenger side mount lined up. Maybe it's the cradle, but all mounting bolts for it lined up, only the drivers side motor mount hole is off. After a while of wrestling with it, I called it a night.
Little help guys, i'm in need.
-Tucker
PS: I know all of this could have been avioded if I had used some dowells to hold the lifters up, what can I say, I'm a dumba$$.
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drop thr cradle and make sure the eng. is aligned when lifting cradle. get some one to help you on this. no problem,just take it slowand throw this in the "what to do before list". 
all is fine. 
fuerzaws6
all is fine. fuerzaws6
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From: Fayetteville, NC
Originally Posted by SSDoubleK
Good luck, you made my cam install I screwed up a month ago not sound so bad, thanx for making me feel better . 
I just did a motor swap to an LS2 402 on a friends Z and we had issues linning up the new poly motor mounts.
Do you have the mount in 2 pieces?
* one on the K-member & one on the motor?
It might be easier to do it that way and use a pry bar to line it up with a friend.
Do you have the mount in 2 pieces?
* one on the K-member & one on the motor?
It might be easier to do it that way and use a pry bar to line it up with a friend.
Launching!
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From: Atlanta area, GA
I don't have any specific advice for ya, other than to say "you had the heads off and you didn't remove the lifters!?! Why not?" The only reason to worry about holding the lifters up w/ pen magnets / sliding rods into the block is if you are doing the cam swap w/ the heads on.
It sounds like maybe the motor mount studs are hanging on the holes in the subframe (?)
A word of caution. Please be careful with this whole "motor unbolted from the subframe" business.. You could easily screw up your firewall w/ the back of the motor.
Good luck.
It sounds like maybe the motor mount studs are hanging on the holes in the subframe (?)
A word of caution. Please be careful with this whole "motor unbolted from the subframe" business.. You could easily screw up your firewall w/ the back of the motor.
Good luck.
Not trying to add "salt to the wound", but I'm curious to know why you didn't just spend 30 seconds and pull the lifters out. You had the heads off and 30 seconds would have saved you a BIG headache.
Sorry about your mis-fortune though, I'd be pretty bummed.ps. Great time to do poly motor mounts if you havent already.
Last edited by Redneck Z; Oct 30, 2005 at 01:21 PM.
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Originally Posted by Redneck Z
O.K., but you still didn't answer my question. Why didn't you take out the lifters? Glad it's back together.
The second sentence in my previous post with answer your question. I was dropped as a baby.
Launching!
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Originally Posted by Redneck Z
Not trying to add "salt to the wound", but I'm curious to know why you didn't just spend 30 seconds and pull the lifters out. You had the heads off and 30 seconds would have saved you a BIG headache.
Sorry about your mis-fortune though, I'd be pretty bummed.ps. Great time to do poly motor mounts if you havent already.
Launching!
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From: California
BTW i know if you dont replace the lifter they have go back in exactly were you took them out.
Im still in shock why you didnt pull them out...
P.s i was dropped alot to man, Lol....But i still pulled mine out
Im still in shock why you didnt pull them out...
P.s i was dropped alot to man, Lol....But i still pulled mine out
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Well guys, we got it back together last night, & she fired right up. Unfortunately, I'm getting no oil pressure. I guess I'll start with the easy stuff first, & replace the oil pressure sending unit, & go from there. It could be any # of things, o-ring, pickup tube blockage, oil pump.... Is there a way to check for oil pressure without damaging the motor?
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From: Fayetteville, NC
Originally Posted by jub jub
Take one of your valve covers off and see if oil has been pumped up to the rockers.