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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 10:06 AM
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Going to do a H/C swap. I understand that cleaning the head bolt holes is a no fun but a must do. Going to install ARP studs as well.

Here is the idea that came to me,while removing the head bolts. If a stud(stud only) was installed one at a time, in place of the bolt that was removed, would this be a safe way to avoid any contamination to the holes, prior to lifting the head.
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 10:24 AM
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Pointless as you will still need to clean out the sealant remains in the holes trapped in the threads.
I suck the water with a wet vac and a home made tube contraption, then I use a gun cleaning kit to clean the threads.
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 10:25 AM
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On each side of the block there are drain plugs. The one on the driver side is a big allen key, I think its a #17mm. The one on the pass side is smaller. Take both out and let the coolant drain. I did this when installing my studs and had verry little water in the bolt holes and in the cylinders.
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 10:44 AM
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take the stock TTY bolts and grind a groove into them as seen here
http://www.ls1howto.com/index.php?article=2
This makes short work of cleaning the threads out.

to get the coolant out of the holes, I used a bunch of paper towels and a shop vac.
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 10:53 AM
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i vote for shop vac with a drinking straw duct taped to the end of it followed by a "grooved out bolt" like above and then hit it with rolled up paper towels
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 11:07 AM
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I used the groved bolt to clean the threads.

For the water, I took and made an attachment that worked with the compressor out of metal brake line welded to an air blowing end.

Blew the water out. Ran the bolt down a few times each hole. Blow it out again.
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 12:51 PM
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Good advice. Predator, what caliber brush do you use?

Don't they use alot of 7.62 in your parts?
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 618HAWK
Going to do a H/C swap. I understand that cleaning the head bolt holes is a no fun but a must do. Going to install ARP studs as well.

Here is the idea that came to me,while removing the head bolts. If a stud(stud only) was installed one at a time, in place of the bolt that was removed, would this be a safe way to avoid any contamination to the holes, prior to lifting the head.
I am also about to install my heads using ARP studs. I think your basic idea is still good- replace each bolt (one at a time, as you mentioned) with a stud and then lightly tighten a nut down on each stud. When all the bolts have been replaced with studs/nuts, remove the nuts from the studs and pull the heads. After cleaning up the colant, pull each stud and clean each hole. Wouldn't this equal easier cleanup? I've never done heads before so I am probably missing something.
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 03:26 PM
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Drain all the coolant, and take out the freeze plug in the pass side, and the coolant temp sensor in the driver's side. That should drain alot of the coolant from the heads. Then when removing the heads, loosen up all of the bolts just enough to lift the head from the block, without removing them. Then lift the head while the bolts are still threaded and let the coolant drain out. These steps should keep most of the coolant out of the bolt holes.

I used a can of compressed air, a grooved stock bolt, and threaded paper towels down into the hole to clean them out after removing the head.
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 03:30 PM
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Great tip. I think I'll be taking that route.
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Originally Posted by Black Z/28
I am also about to install my heads using ARP studs. I think your basic idea is still good- replace each bolt (one at a time, as you mentioned) with a stud and then lightly tighten a nut down on each stud. When all the bolts have been replaced with studs/nuts, remove the nuts from the studs and pull the heads. After cleaning up the colant, pull each stud and clean each hole. Wouldn't this equal easier cleanup? I've never done heads before so I am probably missing something.

by R&Ring the bolts and replacing them with studs, you run the risk of warping the heads. There is a torque sequence to follow when you remove and install heads
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 05:22 PM
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Another vote for the removal of the freeze plugs. A little more work up front but a lot less work cleaning up the mess. You still need to clean the holes but it's a lot easier and less mess to clean this way. Here's an old link with pics and wrench sizes for the freeze plugs.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-internal-engine/335413-afr-s-fast-90-nw-90tb-poly-mounts-fast-rails-finally-done.html
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by TAQuickness
by R&Ring the bolts and replacing them with studs, you run the risk of warping the heads. There is a torque sequence to follow when you remove and install heads
Thanks, but I certainly wouldn't torque the nuts on at this point (just trying to keep the heads from lifting before all the studs were in place). Besides, the original heads haven't even been removed at this point. Sorry I wasn't clear. Besides, I like NHRATA01's idea.
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 05:48 PM
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regardless of how you drain the fliud you need to chase the holes to remove old thread-lock, using the above home made chaser works fine.
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by TAQuickness
by R&Ring the bolts and replacing them with studs, you run the risk of warping the heads. There is a torque sequence to follow when you remove and install heads
TAQuickness, are you saying that the studs cannot be torqued in sequence?
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 08:41 PM
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TAQuickness, are you saying that the studs cannot be torqued in sequence?
nothing of the sort.

I'm saying if you don't follow the sequence, you stand a chance of warping your heads. would have been more clear to say removing one bolt at a time and replacing with studs with out following the proper sequence will cause warpage
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Thank you for clearing that up.
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