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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 04:06 PM
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What is the stock pistons made of?
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 06:30 PM
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Cast aluminum.....
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 06:33 PM
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they are hyperutectic...
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by orangeapeel
they are hyperutectic...
you are incorrect, wrencher is right, they are cast aluminum
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 07:05 PM
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ok, so what engines came stock with hyperutectic's? If any? I guess I have always been under the wrong assumption.
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by orangeapeel
ok, so what engines came stock with hyperutectic's? If any? I guess I have always been under the wrong assumption.
no genIII motors thats for sure.
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 07:22 PM
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They are all cast AL then...cool. that is good info guys!
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every publication i've ever seen regarding the LS1 stock pistons has called them Hyper.... that's weird that they've all been wrong.
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 07:34 PM
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Hyperutectic is a fancy word for cast aluminum.
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 07:51 PM
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http://www.smokemup.com/tech/ls1.php

hmmm, shows cast aluminum there but if swoleguy is right i guess it's a moot point...
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im lost!!!!
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Hypereutectic is a term indicating the silicon (i believe) content of the aluminum. It is still a cast form of aluminum, but is a harder alloy than a pure cast aluminum.

As for which the LS motors have I can't say, however I too was under the assumption that they're hypers...I can't see non-hypers standing up to nitrous as well as the LS1's slugs do.

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im lost!!!!
Me to!
I thought that Hyperutectic is stronger than cast aluminum.
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Everything I've ever seen says they are hyper. pistons. And yes, all it indicates is the silicone content in the metal.
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So they are cast AL hyper's?
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by calongo_SS
Everything I've ever seen says they are hyper. pistons. And yes, all it indicates is the silicone content in the metal.

you mean SilicOn.....it's a matalloid

SiliconE is what they make fake ******* out of, it's a synthetic rubber
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I've seen references to them being eutectic also.
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Old Feb 6, 2006 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by kossuth
I've seen references to them being eutectic also.
It seems that very VERY few automakers make non-hypereutectic cast pistons anymore...
Hypers don't cost hardly any more to make than non-hyper cast pistons, and have much better life, so most OEM's use them, especially in performance oriented engines like the LS series.

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Old Feb 6, 2006 | 10:56 AM
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Hypereutectic means that a material has the ability to go beyond its eutectic point.
This is the point where metal heats and cannot return to its natural state.
The silicon, not silicone, extends the range in which the aluminum can handle heat and return to its natural state. Therefore it can take more heat, aka more power.
As far as I know, all production cast pistons are made with a hypereutectic structure. Whether it is GM, Ford, Dodge, any OEM company.

This thread goes into the details.

This is why forged pistons can take more power, because there eutectic point is higher than cast.
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Is there any concrete info that can be had on this regarding the LSX series engines?
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