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Old Feb 18, 2006 | 12:17 PM
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jimmyblue doin the highway tune today... will post up subjective results tonight
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Old Feb 18, 2006 | 12:40 PM
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and just for everybodys reccord.... torque converter lockup settings and part throddle down shiftpoints could be tuned out and are not depdent on injector size.. also yea i had small injecotrs but you coulda got the car to idle in gear being i did pay you $200.. im not saying i woulda left there with a full tune but you have to admit you basically did nothing and charged me $200 or if you disagree list what you did do and well let the forum decide if its worth $200 because i coulda got a mailorder tune that woulda done alot morefor $150

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It's funny how you think I was WRONG and RIPPED you off. Yes, I should spend time on tuning a car with way to small of injectors. Yea right! Like I said get bigger injectors and I would redo it for you, to bad you didn't listen to me and then ran your mouth. Guess you can please everyone!
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Old Feb 18, 2006 | 05:25 PM
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and just for everybodys reccord.... torque converter lockup settings and part throddle down shiftpoints could be tuned out and are not depdent on injector size.. also yea i had small injecotrs but you coulda got the car to idle in gear being i did pay you $200.. im not saying i woulda left there with a full tune but you have to admit you basically did nothing and charged me $200 or if you disagree list what you did do and well let the forum decide if its worth $200 because i coulda got a mailorder tune that woulda done alot morefor $150
Like I told you, I would retune and dyno the car when you got the bigger injectors that you didn't believe me that you needed.I made small adj. on the idle param. and told you to drive it some to see how it reacted and let me know and then I would work on it more if need be. As for the money you can break it down like this, no matter what I did or didn't do you still had the car on a dyno in which it still cost me 100.00 an hour and they have a one hour min. to use it. So take the 150 mail in tune then go dyno it and see where the tune and power levels that cost another 65.00 and see where you are. And then if it still isn't right you have to send it back out and get it redone ( which equals more down time ).So you are up to 215.00 and then you whould of discovered that you needed the bigger injectors and then what? Take it as you may. My services would of included going to the track and logging the runs for you and making any needed changes. So how's the mail order deal sounding now? You don't get those services do you? Not saying that the mail order programs don't work, but you still would of needed to make changes reguardless. And let it be know that this not something that was set-up on this site and has notthing to do with this great site other then you not being happy and posting aloud.
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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 01:35 PM
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ok the car was tuned last night and as of today it halls ***... i had a couple of 0-140 runs last night and it really pulls hard up top .. adjustments made to the computer include (but not limited to)

tq converter lockup moved up to 55 mph
revlimiter @7000 shifts @ 6600
lock up clutch apply is quicker
injector tables changed for 42's
a\f adjusted to read 13.0 wot
idle aif flow table changed (very weird numbers to start with)
changes to the pe tables??

i know theres alot more but im not that edcuated (yet) to understand all the work that went on yesterday

as of now my only problem leftover form the intial install is my tcs wont work intermittently.... all i know about this is it throws no codes (just turns off) and if i take the car to high speeds it turns back on but after a few min at lower (arround town) speeds it turns back off ??????? anyone wanna take a guess????
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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Jpr5690
ok the car was tuned last night and as of today it halls ***... i had a couple of 0-140 runs last night and it really pulls hard up top .. adjustments made to the computer include (but not limited to)

tq converter lockup moved up to 55 mph
revlimiter @7000 shifts @ 6600
lock up clutch apply is quicker
injector tables changed for 42's
a\f adjusted to read 13.0 wot
idle aif flow table changed (very weird numbers to start with)
changes to the pe tables??

i know theres alot more but im not that edcuated (yet) to understand all the work that went on yesterday

as of now my only problem leftover form the intial install is my tcs wont work intermittently.... all i know about this is it throws no codes (just turns off) and if i take the car to high speeds it turns back on but after a few min at lower (arround town) speeds it turns back off ??????? anyone wanna take a guess????

Got Numbers?
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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 02:27 PM
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not yet, im pretty sure were loookin 430 rwhp unlocked ... i did to 400 rwhp on no tune hopefully soon ill have new numbers
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pm'ed ya dennis.. tring not to get this thread locked
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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 04:33 PM
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not yet, im pretty sure were loookin 430 rwhp unlocked ... i did to 400 rwhp on no tune hopefully soon ill have new numbers

Sounds like some monster numbers. Not that many cars make 430 unlocked so I know you will be a happy guy and should be well into the 10`s n/a

Defintly post up the final numbers when ya get em.
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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 05:28 PM
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hopefully i can afford some dyno time here in the next month ill post up some numbers but like i said 400 untuned and unlocked (tci ssf 3500) stall and "HD" 10bolt, steel driveshaft so no tricks there that was an honest 400 IMO and with a tune there has to be another 20-30 to gained
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hopefully i can afford some dyno time here in the next month ill post up some numbers but like i said 400 untuned and unlocked (tci ssf 3500) stall and "HD" 10bolt, steel driveshaft so no tricks there that was an honest 400 IMO and with a tune there has to be another 20-30 to gained

Sounds about right to me too.
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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 08:27 PM
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JPR5690-sorry if I ask a stupid question but exactly what heads do you have? I must have missed it in the thread somewhere
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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 09:42 PM
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not yet, im pretty sure were loookin 430 rwhp unlocked ... i did to 397 rwhp on no tune hopefully soon ill have new numbers

Had you not flexed your e-**** on here you would know your numbers right now.

Good luck going for 430.
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 01:11 AM
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 01:18 AM
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After speaking with dennis, i have come to realise that that he has made an attempt to contact me via pm's but at that time my box was full. Beacuse of this i realise i have jumped to conclusions and made unfair assumptions as to his intentions of completing the tune on my car. Consquently, i am openly apolgising for my un-warrented calims that dennis was ripping me off. Simply put, this whole mess is a simple matter of miscommunication

I apolgise for any inconvience i may have caused
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