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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 06:26 PM
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Lightbulb Thunder Racing Custom "CheaTR" vs tr224 cam

i got tr224 -114 which cam will make more horsepower ?
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 10:30 PM
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i want to know too
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 10:58 PM
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two totally different cams and applications.
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 11:00 PM
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two totally different cams and applications.
Agreed.


What other mods do you have shack?
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Old Feb 18, 2006 | 01:12 AM
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say 2 stock car one has each cam in it. and then upgrade both cars with the same mods which one would make the most power. say heads, headers, ls6 intake
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Old Feb 18, 2006 | 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by SLP4CamaroSS
say 2 stock car one has each cam in it. and then upgrade both cars with the same mods which one would make the most power. say heads, headers, ls6 intake
I couldn't give you a definate answer, but with those mods they'd probably make similar numbers.
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Old Feb 18, 2006 | 10:18 AM
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the 224 car will have a better pull with higer RPMs
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Old Feb 18, 2006 | 11:28 AM
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two totally different cams and applications.
Could you be more specific about the different applications that these cams are best suited for? I am jnust trying to learn more about cam selection. Thanks.

-Geoff
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Old Feb 18, 2006 | 11:42 AM
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If any one is intrested in a cheater cam i have a brand new one, that i bought but can't afford the heads right now so i have to wait till next year and i could use the money. I'm not gonna give it away but pm if interested.
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Isn't the cheater cam desinged more for the cars w/o headers and w/ strict emissions?

I'm no expert with cams, but 224 is a proven setup. I just sent payment in for a 224/228 myself.
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Old Feb 18, 2006 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 4mula
the 224 car will have a better pull with higer RPMs

This isn't true. The 224/224 will pull to 6400 ish depending.......The cheater is designed to work from idle to 6800 rpm, and pulls hard up top.
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Originally Posted by White_Hawk
Could you be more specific about the different applications that these cams are best suited for? I am jnust trying to learn more about cam selection. Thanks.

-Geoff

Cheatr:

Intake
Lift Dur Open Close Area
.006 265.5 15.6 69.9 26.30
.020 241.7 4.7 57.0 26.13
.050 214.8 8.4 43.3 25.65

Exhaust
.006 289.2 79.8 29.4 27.07
.020 261.4 68.2 13.2 26.90
.050 231.9 54.1 2.2 26.40

Valve Lift .599/.577 116.8 LSA

tr224 114

Intake
Lift Dur Open Close Area
.006 275.3 26.3 70 26.33
.020 251.8 15.7 56.1 26.16
.050 224.8 2.6 42.2 25.68

Exhaust
.006 274.4 70.8 23.6 26.11
.020 250.3 61.4 8.9 25.96
.050 224.0 49.0 5.0 25.52

Valve Lift .564/.559 113.4 LSA


the lobes and VE's on the cheatr cam were chosen to work with a restrictive exhaust system, be stealthy, pass emissions, and still have great mid and top end power.

"more power" is a relative term, you've got to think in terms of area under the curve as well as peak.

the tr224 is a no brainer almost impossible to **** up combination. with the cheatr one needs to pay special attention to valvetrain stability and geometry due to the agressive nature of the lobes.

Last edited by jrp; Feb 18, 2006 at 09:40 PM.
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has anyone told you your one smart dude jrp
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SLP4CamaroSS
has anyone told you your one smart dude jrp
The knowledge is all here on this site if you care to take the time and learn.

But yeah, JRP knows what the ****'s up, hah.
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