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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 01:37 AM
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seeing that that I'm in CA...can't do the long tubes....is a tr224/114 worth it? assuming a lid on the car, about how much extra rwhp would that cam give me?


maybe I should just do nitrous....price would prob be about the same
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 02:21 AM
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go to thunderracing.com and check out thier cheater cam. i think that is what your looking for.
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 03:29 AM
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I did a TR224 without headers and I definitly felt some power. I then added headers a felt a pretty sizeable gain. I think with a TR224 and some shorties you could make some good power. Nutous is always an alternative.
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 06:24 AM
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I say do it.
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 08:52 AM
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will midlength headers pass the visual in CA? tey make some decent power
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 09:39 AM
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Any headers that move the cats from the stock location will fail inspection. You just have to find a shop with a cool enough guy to let that pass.
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 09:42 AM
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nothing compares to nitrous for bang for the buck. If you only want the power on a rare basis, spray it.

The cheater may be a better alternative. If you want a little more overlap and power have them grind it on a 115 LSA with a 114 ICL.

Ferocity: how long did you run the cam with stock manifolds & cats? How was the tuning for idle and low rpm (below 1500 rpm) cruising? I'm curious how that much overlap does with stock manifolds. I've been looking at limiting overlap at .05 with stock manifolds to -8 to -10
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 09:49 AM
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Thank goodness for Texas. No restriction at all.
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by adillhoff
Thank goodness for Texas. No restriction at all.
Same with MN. We can only drive 7 months out of the year though.
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I think the single pattern TR224 is designed with longtubes in mind. I do know a guy that has stage II 5.3l heads, TR224 and edelbrock shorties. He didn't dyno very high, but runs pretty strong. There are probably better cams for shorty headers/stock manifolds, but it would be a nice bump from the stock cam.
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 12:22 PM
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Some good posts on here. A word of advice.

Always try to keep the big picture in mind, how you want your car to perform and how you will use the car.

Intake, heads, cam, and headers all work together toward the end result. They should be matched to optimize your combo, and your $.

My understanding is that the tr224 is not the best choice with stock manifolds, and the CheatR is not the best choice for a car with LT's.

Measure twice, cut once.
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Same with MN. We can only drive 7 months out of the year though.

NW Connecticut is bout 8 months outta the year.. not as cold as MN tho.. you guys man I don't know how you do it!


If I was in your position, I'd go n2o. The only reason I'm going h/c is because I screwed up my head
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Rescue Ranger
NW Connecticut is bout 8 months outta the year.. not as cold as MN tho.. you guys man I don't know how you do it!


If I was in your position, I'd go n2o. The only reason I'm going h/c is because I screwed up my head
This winter has been rather mild. Its starting to get cold though now. Supposed to be below zero for a few days. Just so its not windy I really dont mind the cold. Well, I woke up this morning to -10 with a windchill of -36.

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