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Old 03-01-2006, 12:56 AM
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Looks like valve float
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Originally Posted by GuitsBoy
I dont know what kind of equipment would be able to tell "roughness".
A "Profilometer" will do it. A good machine shop should have one, or know where you can find one. Since cams are ground, the surface should be pretty smooth. You could measure the FM and your stocker (if you still have it) for comparison.

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Originally Posted by alsfastz28
that looks like metal was to soft on cam lifter wore in to cam thats not to good may be bad batch of cams good luck.
Metal was not soft, thats for sure. The cam was gouged in on that one loe because the roler had flaked apart and really ground down the cam as it was spinning.
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Originally Posted by TwoFast4Lv
Looks like valve float
Was this a serious reply or just funning around??? I dont think it was valve float. the gold dual kits have 140/350 seat/open pressure, which is more than enough to control this cam profile. besides, its not like the only damage is on the trailing ramp of the lobe.
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Doesnt look like float to me either. man those pitting spots on the cam are nasty looking.
Old 03-01-2006, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by GuitsBoy
Was this a serious reply or just funning around??? I dont think it was valve float. the gold dual kits have 140/350 seat/open pressure, which is more than enough to control this cam profile. besides, its not like the only damage is on the trailing ramp of the lobe.
That is not valve float, you have damage all the way around the lobe... He must have been joking...

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that's what mine looked like last summer. but mine ticked like hell.
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im a little leary of getting a cam from them also... ouch
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Originally Posted by blackws69
that's what mine looked like last summer. but mine ticked like hell.
Your what??? Lifters or cam, both??? What cam was it???

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Originally Posted by GuitsBoy
http://www.ihearyou.com/~tony/pictures/lifters/

If youre into cam / lifter snuff pics, enjoy...
So sorrry to see your loss but that quote cracked me up!
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Originally Posted by Ace$nyper
So sorrry to see your loss but that quote cracked me up!
Dont feel sorry. I think im going to enjoy my new setup a lot more, and having the lifters crumble on me, twice, just sped things up. I just wanted to post pics of the cams texture what with all the other posts of lifters getting all fux0r3d...
Old 03-01-2006, 03:19 PM
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looks like my old TR224 cam after some piston slap issues, minus the tooling marks. my lifter, on the other hand, mushroomed in the block
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One down side to a roller cam is the roller on the lifter develops a line load and a very high surface stress, and this is in the best of conditions with a smooth contact surface. With a surface roughness that is too high, which appears to be what you have on your cam, your peak stress values are likey through the roof and the cam will start breaking down.
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Check this out.https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-internal-engine/461969-came-lobes-discussion.html
Old 03-01-2006, 07:33 PM
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hmmm my car has that blower whine sound too. It started when i installed the f13 cam and a asp underdrive pulley. I think mine is comming from the pulley though, hope its not the same thing that you had though.
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Mine looks the same. I'll have the cam out this weekend but my pics are just like yours....

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bought last year during futral gp
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Old 03-02-2006, 07:15 AM
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Emailed Allan, and he is going to take a look at the cam and possibly replace it.
Old 03-02-2006, 08:53 AM
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when exactly did you guys get your cams? i bought mine a last march in the gp and only have about 4000 miles on it. so far no unusual noises but you never know.
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Originally Posted by algws6
when exactly did you guys get your cams? i bought mine a last march in the gp.
March 15, 2005
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Got mine during the gp


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