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03-09-2006, 08:54 PM
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00 Ws-6 Hey Gang.. Well Its an age old question.. Im looking at doing some extra stuff to my TA. I have the lid and K&N. Im getting the hypertec reprom.. Im thinking about a LS1 intake and maybe heads and cam.> The problem is. Im an old schooler and I dont want to have serious reprom issues. I dont want bad smelling exhaust and still want great fuel economy. What types of cams can i use that has nice idle and wont need a huge computer adjustment. I dont have the time or money to do that.. Should I use bigger injectors? What size and will the heads really need to be replaced?? Thanks
03-09-2006, 09:07 PM
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Most people would say not to waste your money on the hypertech to reporgram you brain settings. Also I think you mean LS6 instead of LS1 intake. Start off with intake, headers and exhaust and then cam and heads(lots of different combos from the sponsors here). I am still working on finishing my combo. Just take your time and do some research and if you have any issues, the guys here will be more than glad to help you out.
03-09-2006, 09:22 PM
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there are many different cams that offer excellent driveability and won't reek of gas at idle. i'd suggest sticking to a small cam (<228 duration) on a 114 lsa. it seems that you'd be a good candidate for the old standby 224 cam. possibly something a little smaller, maybe 220/222. i'd start with the bolt-ons first, you can usually get those stick cars up around 350 rwhp without much trouble. if that's not enough, maybe then jump into a head/cam combo, or just a cam..whatever you want.
03-09-2006, 09:24 PM
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Stay away from the hypertech. If you need to tune spend the extra 150 and get HP tuner. If you want to put heads and cam on it wait and program the car then. I agree that you should start with headers and exhaust, but I would research the ls6 intake. I installed one on my 2000 ws6 and only gained 8 hp on my dyno runs (before my heads and cam).
I bought the pacesetter lt's and bolt on y-pipe for around $500 and installed them myself, a pretty easy upgrade on a 2000 WS6. Start with this upgrade and do it yourself and save the $200-$300, just remember to take your time and don't worry if you break some of the stock exhaust bolts off when you remove them.....
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I bought the pacesetter lt's and bolt on y-pipe for around $500 and installed them myself, a pretty easy upgrade on a 2000 WS6. Start with this upgrade and do it yourself and save the $200-$300, just remember to take your time and don't worry if you break some of the stock exhaust bolts off when you remove them.....
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03-09-2006, 09:45 PM
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I have to admit.. I have issues with headers.. Its my understanding that the ws6 already has free flow exhaust? I love the quite sound and dont care for anything loud.. I guess if I decide on headers Ill need to get some high quaility ones/. I hate the tight fit they seem to have.. Ill be looking into the hp tuner too.. The only question I have about this is..
I bought the car used, they had already put 3:73's in and i have no idea if they had already power programmed the car?? It shifts hard too and i never checked the calibration of speedo. I know that when you do this it saves the stock program. Now if its not stock, can the programmer reload the storck program??I hope that made some sense.. and thanks for the replys..
I bought the car used, they had already put 3:73's in and i have no idea if they had already power programmed the car?? It shifts hard too and i never checked the calibration of speedo. I know that when you do this it saves the stock program. Now if its not stock, can the programmer reload the storck program??I hope that made some sense.. and thanks for the replys..
03-09-2006, 09:52 PM
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ah, so you have an automatic...in that case, the first performance mod you should do is a STALL CONVERTER. this is hands down the best performance mod for the money. and yes, the pcm settings can be altered at any point, returning them to stock if you wish. if i were you, i'd buy the parts, install them, then pay someone to tune the car. if you're going to start buying parts, i would suggest doing headers last, as they require a tune to make everything right. whereas the intake and other bolt-ons don't.
03-09-2006, 10:01 PM
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I dont need a huge stall. Im not really looking for hard launches, its already a hole shootin fool. I just put on a new set of Goodyear F1's too! I looked into the hp tuners and wholie crap.. I dont know if im wanting to do that.. So Im thinking I may do the ls6 intake, maybe some better injectors and headers. How do you feel about headers only and leaving the stock muffler on?
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03-09-2006, 10:09 PM
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i've personally heard a car with pacesetter longtubes and the factory catback. it sounded very nice and clean, but i believe the stock catback would rob some hp over an aftermarket system (other than the 80 series flowmaster).
the stock injectors should be good to somewhere around 380 rwhp. i'd suggest the ls6 intake, headers, a ported throttlebody, an underdrive pulley, and a good tune to get you started. if you want more, maybe invest in a 3k stall and 24k cooler. bear in mind that any hp you add will put more stress on your stock suspension and transmission.
the stock injectors should be good to somewhere around 380 rwhp. i'd suggest the ls6 intake, headers, a ported throttlebody, an underdrive pulley, and a good tune to get you started. if you want more, maybe invest in a 3k stall and 24k cooler. bear in mind that any hp you add will put more stress on your stock suspension and transmission.
03-09-2006, 10:09 PM
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I know when I started on mine I bought some Mac midlenght headers for 250 bucks like 2years ago, picked up like 20rwhp, then I did the lid. You can always pick up a good muffler for pretty cheap in the for sale section. I got my Slp dual dual for FREE yes free some guy wanted it out of his garage. Another thing to do is the free mods, cheap and easy. As far as the programmer I wouldnt go that route I would take it to a good tuner located near you and a sponsor on this sight, then later when you do more you can get it retuned for free or very cheap.
03-09-2006, 10:18 PM
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i've pretty much set myself up for cam thus far. i have the stall, gears, ls6 intake, lid, shift kit, lcas, sub-frames, and exhaust after this weekend. i'm interested to see what the headers will do for me. modding with a 4k stall is great, everything i do gives me better gains than having a stock stall. right now i just have an 1/8 mile monster. adding hp will definitely wake it up in the second 1/8. 
03-09-2006, 10:19 PM
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hey dont the cats attach to the exhaust manifolds, like at the dumps? How do the cats attach to the headers or y pipe? Id like to use the cats and o2s..
03-09-2006, 10:21 PM
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This will give you a better idea...you can reuse the stock cats but they dont flow very well and take up alot of room.
http://www.texas-speed.com/shop/item...d=189&catid=45
http://www.texas-speed.com/shop/item...d=189&catid=45
03-09-2006, 10:42 PM
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I think this is what im going to do.. One complete package..:
Mac LS1 Headers and Cat Y-Pipe
http://texas-speed.com/shop/item.asp...d=180&catid=45
Item#:
43-TF3300
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$739.99
I really like the idea of shorter headers.. Do you think theres a big HP difference??
Mac LS1 Headers and Cat Y-Pipe
http://texas-speed.com/shop/item.asp...d=180&catid=45
Item#:
43-TF3300
Price/ea.
$739.99
I really like the idea of shorter headers.. Do you think theres a big HP difference??
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So whats the deal with the headers.. Will shorties be bad? Whats the preferred method long or short? Will i need to return my comp if I dont run cats? Whats the gains on Average?? I think i have to use o2 sims?? Is there 02 in the cats? Or d i bypass them totally