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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 03:41 PM
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Anyhow, I have had lifter noise for about 2 years now. Finally decided to change out the cam & lifters. Decided on the Patriot 226/226, Initial impressions are good. See atached pic of old Comp cam.
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 05:04 PM
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I hope you got some new lifters!
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 05:16 PM
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HAHA....HOLY CRAP! What caused that? Looks like you had no preload on your lifters? There's a huge groove where the lifter would be.
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 05:30 PM
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And you ran 2 years with that kind of noise? Why did you wait so long to investigate?
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 05:56 PM
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Yes new lifters, trays, cam. It actually didn't sound too terribly bad, but I have a nasty habit of procrastinating.
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 06:14 PM
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What did it sound like? Any idea what caused it?
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 06:55 PM
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What car do you have? I'm planning on putting the patrios 226/226 585cam in my 2001 SS camaro, i was just wondering how it ran, and sounded? Have you had your car dynoed since then?
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 07:11 PM
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Wow, just wow.
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 07:13 PM
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"Have you had your car dynoed since then?"

Goodness man; I just put it in today. Car is a 99 Camaro; I can get a sound clip and send it if you like. I will say this; my old cam (Comp 212 / 218 .522 / .529 114) had really good low end torque and would really come alive around 3500, but peeter of around 5500. This cam has a way more distinctive idle and is really linear. It also likes to rev more. I am running a stock tune and haven't had any issues yet. Also, old numbers were 359hp / 370tq not sure if I will even bother with a dyno on this one.
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 07:24 PM
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That'd be great. You say it's running on a stock tune? Everyones told me if I didn't have it tune'd after I put that cam in, it'd be extremely rough on the engine?

What other mods have you done to your car if any?


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Send me your e-mail just in case I screw the pooch posting it. Other mods are lid, macs, ported TB, descreened maf, ported heads, 4.10's.

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http://media.putfile.com/Patriot-226

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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 07:42 PM
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Tell me that was just put on a bench and angle ground like that!
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Sounds good man, if its not too much to ask could you get a video outside of the car near the exhaust during daytime?
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Sure, I'll do it tommorow.
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Originally Posted by ckingcmaro
That'd be great. You say it's running on a stock tune? Everyones told me if I didn't have it tune'd after I put that cam in, it'd be extremely rough on the engine?

What other mods have you done to your car if any?


Thanks,
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Yes, you will need a tune. He can get away with it for a while if he wants b/c I'm assuming he had tuning for his prior cam and this one isn't that big of a jump. Either way, always need to tune after doing cam.
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Originally Posted by hallsj1
Yes new lifters, trays, cam. It actually didn't sound too terribly bad, but I have a nasty habit of procrastinating.
And where do you think all the crap off those lobes went??
My bet is, it's stuck in the sides of the pistons, and in the bearings.. My suggestion is you take a look, B4 you drive over the crank..
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Haha! Drive over the crank, that's awesome. This is so true. Have you changed your oil in the last 2 years? Didn't you see clumps of metal shavings stuck to the magnet and shiney particles in the oil?


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And where do you think all the crap off those lobes went??
My bet is, it's stuck in the sides of the pistons, and in the bearings.. My suggestion is you take a look, B4 you drive over the crank..
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Originally Posted by HavATampa
Haha! Drive over the crank, that's awesome. This is so true. Have you changed your oil in the last 2 years? Didn't you see clumps of metal shavings stuck to the magnet and shiney particles in the oil?
We have a "club" in the turbo BUICK community, known as DOTCC... AKA: Drive over the crank club.
BTST, and it makes for a hell of a mess!!!
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LOL! I can only picture it.

Originally Posted by Old Geezer
We have a "club" in the turbo BUICK community, known as DOTCC... AKA: Drive over the crank club.
BTST, and it makes for a hell of a mess!!!
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