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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 09:10 PM
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Looking to get a cam but was told a 112 LSA really doesnt make much diff than a 114 LSA besides sounding a little more agressive and possibly my car dying out at startup. Just wanted to know what you guys thought since you cant trust everything you hear. As of now im going with a 114 unless there is any reason to switch to a 112.

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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 09:12 PM
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with a tune a cam like that should never die out. IMO go w/ 112 for the more aggressive lopey idle
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 09:12 PM
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auto = 114 lsa m6 = 112
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 09:15 PM
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Its probably too late to change to the 112 since my work is being done at a shop .. is there that much noticeable diff ?
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 09:20 PM
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with the 112lsa the powerband will be usable sooner, and it will sound alot meaner.
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 09:25 PM
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My 112 sounds pretty dang mean at idle and I have no drivability issues with the converter/tuning. I wouldnt be able tell you the diff. between a 114 because I've never had one in the car, you can actually 'feel' the power kick in around 3k and it still has good street manners.
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 09:30 PM
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Thanks, i talked to the guys at the shop and since noone decided to tell me this i went with the 114 but if there was a 112 there and they havent tore into the motor yet to go ahead with the 112. Thanks for all the Help
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 11:13 PM
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Listen to what WickedC5 said about being able to get in the power band and to the peak sooner with the 112. The 224 won't have the huge overlap that'd give you trouble tuning the 112, even with an A4, although the post above about A4=114 and M6=112 is a good rule of thumb.
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 12:27 AM
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Go with the 112 thats what I have in a m6 speed and love it. Makes good power down low. If you have a auto then go with 114 it will work better with a stall. Also my car never dies out. "even with a bad tune it shouldent die out." Hope that helps you out.
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 02:17 AM
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how much were these cam installs for you guys?
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 02:45 AM
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Mine were all at the cost of my hands getting cut up and a few bottles of beer.
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Mine were all at the cost of my hands getting cut up and a few bottles of beer.
lucky SOB . I tried to play mechanic and regret it. $1200 labor h/c install @ east side performance
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 09:39 AM
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Mines Costing me $1700 with the labor, dyno tune, and tax included which i think is a good deal, new belts, SLP underdrive pulley and replace all fluids.
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I find it really hard to trust a stranger working on my car. When all possible I will do everything myself even if I curse the whole time.!!! Like when I installed headers by myself in my garage. lol... When I had my gears installed 2 weeks ago, I was worried that the mechanics were goin to **** sumthing up...like a worried parent....haha
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 11:59 AM
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I felt that way until I finally found a shop that really knew what they were doing, and did it a lot. You must be able to find a good shop in Texas for an F-Body... It's practically the F-Body State, isn't it?
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 2000Z28M6
I find it really hard to trust a stranger working on my car. When all possible I will do everything myself even if I curse the whole time.!!! Like when I installed headers by myself in my garage. lol... When I had my gears installed 2 weeks ago, I was worried that the mechanics were goin to **** sumthing up...like a worried parent....haha
Only way I'll take it in is if I absolutly have to. Then it takes me months of searching till I find a place I "might" trust.
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 12:18 PM
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Only way I'll take it in is if I absolutly have to. Then it takes me months of searching till I find a place I "might" trust.
Now, Hawaii I can understand... I just talked to a guy on Eastern F_Body Forum who came back from there, and said there's a local Camaro club. Are you a member? They must have a few shop references. Guess it sucks if they're on Oahu and you're not, though...
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 12:57 PM
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Now, Hawaii I can understand... I just talked to a guy on Eastern F_Body Forum who came back from there, and said there's a local Camaro club. Are you a member? They must have a few shop references. Guess it sucks if they're on Oahu and you're not, though...
I'm on Oahu and just joined a Club a little while ago. There is a couple shops here, but I still prefer to do it myself. The only time I took any of my cars in since i was 16 was when my 81 K5 lost a motor mount and my boss wouldn't let me off work to replace it and it was my only tranportation at the time. Had to $$ to have it towed too! That old boss was a pr!ck!!
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