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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 11:31 AM
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I like the thought of a built 347 myself. You could always go FI.
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ninobrn99
pressure shake? similar to what?
Similar to a slight wave shock.
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 12:05 PM
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I'd rebuild the stock block using the stock crank, forged rods and pistons, and add a D1 Procharger to the mix. So much potential. There are people that get good life out of the stock crank. GMHTP magazine showcased a Camaro making 850! rwhp with the stock crank and forged rods/pistons. He's got tons of miles on the car. It's not a showqueen.

Or... why not just put a 4" stoke crank when you rebuild? And boost it?

I'm saving right now for a D1 kit. All motor mods < Procharger D1.
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 12:45 PM
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Going FI will cost me as much as going 402 longblock with all the goodies.
That still leaves me with the need of a new tranny, and rear diff.

All I want is a 10 second car, mostly Track.
I'm still getting some crazy ideas BTW

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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 01:27 PM
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You mentioned it would cost the same. But it would have way more potential than that 408 would. You want 10's and all, but that won't satisfy you forever, everyone wants more. It's human, plus supercharger whine is so !@#$ing mean!

It's like having nitrous that never runs out. Imagine the SAVINGS.
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
Well after 2 double Jack D's on the rocks and some scribble on a bar napkin, I came to the conclusion that stock cubes it is (within budget), not to mention I need to do this within the next 30 days.

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Callies crank
callies rods
Mahle flat tops with 4cc reliefs.
Rollmaster double roller (have on the shelf)
New ported pump

Now for cam, the TSP trqr V2 was great, but I'm tempted to put a bigger one in.
Maybe a MS3 ? still debating on that one.

Also looking at a TH350 MFVB with a new verter (something BIG)
and of course a 12 bolt ( to keep my ABS)

But first the block! I do not like Sundays when I have to buy something!
Sounds like a great plan. I was going to say stay stock cubes. There's got to be a point where the extra money in your case +10k isn't going to equate to that much extra fun.
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 01:40 PM
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 02:09 PM
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Man Predator, now you have me a lot more worried about my blown gasket.
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by FIREHAWK#608
You mentioned it would cost the same. But it would have way more potential than that 408 would.

Thats funny...
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 02:30 PM
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Thats funny...
Any other symptoms other than the white smoke? Anything sound differently?

Just trying to get an idea where I'm at.
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by tru_ice
Any other symptoms other than the white smoke? Anything sound differently?

Just trying to get an idea where I'm at.
Well, by the time I made back to the pits, it starting idling rougher and rougher. it eventually lost idle and started shaking rough.
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 02:52 PM
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I say stay stock cubes, Forge everything, Go with something like an ms3 and some AFR 225's and you should have a killer set up!
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by c0ncEpT
I say stay stock cubes, Forge everything, Go with something like an ms3 and some AFR 225's and you should have a killer set up!
Well hopefully it's just a blown gasket. I'm only running a 228 cam, so the idle may not be as intense, but it seems to drive fine I just get white smoke at start up, and sometimes at a stop light.
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 03:27 PM
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Another setup, I hope i'm not boring you

6.0L iron block
3.622 factory stroke crankshaft
Manley forged 6.125" con rods
CP forged 11cc dish pistons
Federal Mogul race series rod bearings
Clevite race series main bearings
Speed Pro Plasma Moly ring set
6.0L, 59 cc Stage 3 heads
GM, MLS gasket
Cam 242/248, .610/.615 112+4 LSA

IVO>13
IVC>49
EVO>60
EVC>8
ECL>116
Overlap>21*

This would be an ~11.74 SCR and ~8.56 DCR setup

Now add some juice to that Hmmmmm

347 setup would be as follow:

Callies 3.622 crank
Callie 6.125 con rods
Mahle Flat top 4 cc relief pistons
AFR 205 milled 60 cc
GM MLS gasket
Cam 232/240, .595/.609 112+4 LSA

EVO>8
EVC>44
IVO>56
IVC>4
ECL>116
Overlap>12*

Setup will be ~ 11.04:1 and 8.51 DCR

Some juice over that Hmmmmm

I think my brain is rattling more than my blown motor


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The cost will be aproximately the same, but with Iron I'm looking at 92 more LBS, but I think quite a bit more trq, I could be wrong though...

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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 04:47 PM
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That sucks, sorry to hear about your misfortune. If you're looking for a short term fix, by all means go forged stock shortblock. W2W has a killer deal going on. That will be your easiest fix and have you up and running sooner.

Based on my experience going with the LS2 402, it will cost substantially more time and money for not only the shortblock, heads and cam but the supporting hardware as well (rebuilt trans, upgraded fuel system, new rearend).
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 09:49 PM
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For the 347, why not go slightly smaller on the duration and cut the LSA? It seems like the 4* advance is trying to force fit the bigger cam around your set-up. If you are keeping 3.73s and the 3200 stall, why not beef up the midrange? Maybe something like a 230/234 110 108.

alternatively with a built bottom end, switch to 4.10s and a 4000 stall and put the cam in straight up and rev a little higher.
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 09:54 PM
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Sorry to hear about your engine, but if your buying a crank it would be crazy NOT to go with a 4" stroke. A 383 can be a very effective package with the right heads, cam, and other complimenting goodies.

Dont spend money to get back to where you were....spend a little more and step to the next level.

Just my .02.....Good luck whatever you decide

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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 1QuickT-A
Thats funny...
What?

boosted forged 346,382 > N/A 408
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by FIREHAWK#608
What?

boosted forged 346,382 > N/A 408
He was talking about a 402 actually.. You said 408.. And now you are throwing the '382' in the mix.. If he built a N/A 408 he could always throw a big shot of nitrous on it. So, the power and potential would be greater especially if he keeps the stock crankshaft in the 346 compared to a forged callies crankshaft in a 402/408 stroker..

If I were in his shoes I would buy the 4in crank and do the 383.. Price is just a few hundred more and the power is greater..
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 11:09 PM
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Sorry to hear about the damage man. I know you are torn between disgust(blown engine) and excitement over the future. Personally Id go with a 402/408 setup from one of the vendors. TSP has a forged 402 shortblock for 3995...hard to beat that price. Pick up some AFR, or Dart heads and rip it up! I think you would be happier if you upgrade and not stay stock cubes I know I would....
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