"Stealth" Cam / Heads?
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OK - I know I should be happy with the power I'm getting now with the minor mods so far BUT...I WANT MORE!!
I don't really want to try to win the "rumpty rump" idle award, but I would like more goose in the BlueFlyingGoat. So I have a few questions:
1. Has anyone tried or are currently running either the CheatR cam / heads setup from Thunder Racing or the SI007 cam from Speed Inc.? Or something else similar you've run or would recommend? If so, how do you like them and how much RWHP/RWTQ did they make for you?
2. If you're going with a "stealth" setup, is there really any advantage to changing the heads? I can definately see changing the valve springs and the pushrods just to get some additional RPM, but I'm not sure how much of a difference adding the heads to the mix will make.
3. OR...should I just stay put until I can do a forged motor? Or forced induction? Or bag the whole thing and go N20?
The polls are open...will check back tomorrow PM...
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I don't really want to try to win the "rumpty rump" idle award, but I would like more goose in the BlueFlyingGoat. So I have a few questions:
1. Has anyone tried or are currently running either the CheatR cam / heads setup from Thunder Racing or the SI007 cam from Speed Inc.? Or something else similar you've run or would recommend? If so, how do you like them and how much RWHP/RWTQ did they make for you?
2. If you're going with a "stealth" setup, is there really any advantage to changing the heads? I can definately see changing the valve springs and the pushrods just to get some additional RPM, but I'm not sure how much of a difference adding the heads to the mix will make.
3. OR...should I just stay put until I can do a forged motor? Or forced induction? Or bag the whole thing and go N20?
The polls are open...will check back tomorrow PM...
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411 rwhp with CheaTR cam, AFR 205 heads, FAST intake and stock exhaust manifolds, stock cats and SLP Dual Dual catback. Very stealthy. Sounded stock, cleaned some clocks.
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2022 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 S&B CAI, Corsa catback.
2023 Corvette 3LT Z51 soon to be modified.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
411 rwhp with CheaTR cam, AFR 205 heads, FAST intake and stock exhaust manifolds, stock cats and SLP Dual Dual catback. Very stealthy. Sounded stock, cleaned some clocks.
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
411 rwhp with CheaTR cam, AFR 205 heads, FAST intake and stock exhaust manifolds, stock cats and SLP Dual Dual catback. Very stealthy. Sounded stock, cleaned some clocks.
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Originally Posted by johnws6
Is there an advantage keeping the stock exhaust with this particular setup though? Would you make more power with full exhaust? 400 whp seems very good for a ls1 with stock exhaust on it.
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Some more "Stealth" recommendations from another forum - is anyone running these and do you like them?
LPE GT2-3
Speed Inc. SI3 on stock exhaust
LPE GT2-3
Speed Inc. SI3 on stock exhaust
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Originally Posted by BlueFlyingGoat
I'm thinking Patrick G wanted the stock manifold to pass the "let's see what's in there - really" inspection after taking someone's candy...
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388 rwhp with the CheaTR, Patriot Heads, and the LS6 intake w EGR through stock manifolds and cats. In my area they are pulling people over for illegal mods so I chose to go "stealth". Im happy with my choice. Just wait until I hit it with the 150 wet shot...........
Edit: This is through a 12-bolt rear, so it probably cost me a few HP.
Edit: This is through a 12-bolt rear, so it probably cost me a few HP.
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...Edit: This is through a 12-bolt rear, so it probably cost me a few HP.
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I was thinking about the mti stealth cam for a while but now you got me thinking about the si007 , does anybody out there have this cam and wish to share their experience.
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Originally Posted by Stanknuglet
I was thinking about the mti stealth cam for a while but now you got me thinking about the si007 , does anybody out there have this cam and wish to share their experience.
While we're waiting, got a link to the MTI cam specs?
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Originally Posted by BlueFlyingGoat
Some more "Stealth" recommendations from another forum - is anyone running these and do you like them?
LPE GT2-3
Speed Inc. SI3 on stock exhaust
LPE GT2-3
Speed Inc. SI3 on stock exhaust
i have the gt2-3. made 371/350 untuned w/other mods in sig.
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I was over at Speed Inc. today and let them talk me out of the SI13 (224/224) and into the SI007 which will be installed begining of August.
So I'll pose the question again since it's been 4 months since the last
reply. Anyone using the SI007 ?
thanks
So I'll pose the question again since it's been 4 months since the last
reply. Anyone using the SI007 ?
thanks
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
411 rwhp with CheaTR cam, AFR 205 heads, FAST intake and stock exhaust manifolds, stock cats and SLP Dual Dual catback. Very stealthy. Sounded stock, cleaned some clocks.
Long live the CheaTR!
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
411 rwhp with CheaTR cam, AFR 205 heads, FAST intake and stock exhaust manifolds, stock cats and SLP Dual Dual catback. Very stealthy. Sounded stock, cleaned some clocks.
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If retaining stock heads, then:
Search under ragtop and view the thread of "max overlap with stock manifolds" excellent cam selection there.
Or if use headers then Old Man Cam from TR.
Search under ragtop and view the thread of "max overlap with stock manifolds" excellent cam selection there.
Or if use headers then Old Man Cam from TR.