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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 11:22 PM
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Ok got some thinking to do here I'm between 5 or 6 cams

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LG-5x3 need the durations specs if anyone has them

TSP-233/239, Torquer, Magic Stick

The shop I go to recomended a 228/228

I'm going to be putting in the Comp 921 Springs and Comp R Rods when I do the cam regardless of what I pick

I don't care about rough idle or a loss of some street manners and bottom end as long as I don't lose my a$$ to a civic off i light I'm fine.

This is the car: 00 Hawk M6 Spec 3/Steel Flywheel 4.11's/Girdle 10 bolt though blackwing lid K&N LT's ORY LM Any thoughts? Thanks

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Had the TRak in about a week, idles nasty as hell, but very streetable, should have dyno numbers next week. Hoping for low 400/39x tq



Originally Posted by Wikked00Hawk516
Ok got some thinking to do here I'm between 5 or 6 cams

Thunder-Trak

LG-5x3 need the durations specs if anyone has them

TSP-233/239, Torquer, Magic Stick

The shop I go to recomended a 228/228

I don't care about rough idle or a loss of some street manners and bottom end as long as I don't lose my a$$ to a civic off i light I'm fine.

This is the car: 00 Hawk M6 Spec 3/Steel Flywheel 4.11's/Girdle 10 bolt though blackwing lid K&N LT's ORY LM Any thoughts? Thanks

Rick
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 11:33 PM
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The only thing about the TRAK is the lift. .640! That's very close. You're really relying on the valvesprings to control the valvetrain at those rpms and tight tolerances. To me that's a ticking timebomb.

Any one of those cams can put you in the 400+ rwhp club, but I'd never pick the TRAK just because of the extreme lift.There really isn't a reason to have the valve hanging that far. You can get the same power with less risk using a different cam.
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 11:46 PM
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I've been leaning more towards the LG5X3 and the Texas Speed Cams more then the Trak my buddy has the TR 230/236 in his SS and it's an awesome cam but I don't want the same cam as him.

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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 11:49 PM
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the Magic stick has been consistently good on lots of cars on this forum. I would also look into getting the PRC Golds instead of the 921's. They are a lot cheaper and will work just as good with any of those cams
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I'll have to check into those springs. Thanks

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May be cheaper than the 921's, but you always get what you pay for, and valvetrain isn't something you want to go cheap on.
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I have the 233/239

if i had to pick one of the cams you listed right now, it would be the Magic Stick III.
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I agree on not going cheap on the valvetrain. Thanks for the input guys.

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I have the torquer 1 which is 233/233 .595 595 and I love it. The T2 should also be great.

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G5X3 here, you will like it.Nassty idle!!!!
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PRC springs aren't considered "cheap", as in a shitty, safety compromising item. Good bang for the buck? Yes! Nothing wrong with the PRC springs or the Patriot Performance "Gold" springs either.
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G5X3 here, you will like it.Nassty idle!!!!
Hey man do you have the duration specs on that cam? Just curious to see what I'm looking at thanks

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they dont relese their specs but i think i saw somone who cam doctered it and it came out to be a 234/242 and can't remember the lift but it was somthing like .598/.608
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i like the specs of the G5X3 cam, but i think that the TSP grinds are better (I'm a fan of cam motion) TSP233/239 is an awesome all around cam i think
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Originally Posted by 02WS6Bird
i like the specs of the G5X3 cam, but i think that the TSP grinds are better (I'm a fan of cam motion) TSP233/239 is an awesome all around cam i think
Cam motion doesn't grind TSP cams. They grind Futrals. TSP mainly uses Comp, but the old 231/237 was a Lunati grind from what I have been told.
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PRC springs aren't considered "cheap", as in a shitty, safety compromising item. Good bang for the buck? Yes! Nothing wrong with the PRC springs or the Patriot Performance "Gold" springs either.
My PRC springs have been great for over a year on my DD.

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Originally Posted by ThirdGenLS1
they dont relese their specs but i think i saw somone who cam doctered it and it came out to be a 234/242 and can't remember the lift but it was somthing like .598/.608
234/242, .600/.610 112 or 114lsa
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