Patrick G

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Unless you have someone do a really kickass driveability tune, I don't think you'll like those mid/high 23X duration cams. For best area under the curve, ease of tuning and badass idle, you should get an XE-R lobed version of my new cam:
224/228 .581/.588 110LSA (+0)
Even though this cam is on a 110LSA, it will have a little less overlap than those 112 LSA cams in the 230s, making it easier to tune and will have better mid-range punch along with comparable top-end. The lope will be killer, especially at a stock 800 idle.

02SOMWS6

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I've had that cam(224/228 .581/.588 on a 110 LSA) since 2002. That was the custom grind cam I got from Agostino Racing Engines way back when they were in full swing. I would like to go bigger but not sure which way to go for a full race cam.

Patrick G

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Sell that cam to Jacob and get yourself a T-Rex. That's a nice step up and it's still in that 110LSA window that our motors like.

02WS6Bird

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jake that cam does sound alot more like it will fit your needs now and later even when you decide to maybe do the turbo. Out by us jake, knowing half the people we do a FAST street car, is a car running mid-low 10's nearly full weight and of course has the juice. lol Patrick G gave you a good sized cam for what you are looking for.... I was thinking more along the lines of 224/230 .590/.590 on either a 110 or 112. It'll retain stock drive quality for your cruising, and definitely give you the power advantage if tuned properly over cams like the TR224. It will most likely compete w/ the TR230 and the FM11(?) which i believe is a 228/228. considering you will probably go through tony, you'll have the same cam grind etc, so you will have a similar power curve. It might better suit you for nitrous in the long run due to the split and if you go 112 LSA you'll enjoy it very much.

Keep in minds most guys out here, that you and i do hang w/ are running cams in cars that are by no means daily driven(except matt lol). 228/230 i believe is the smallest but we all know what else lurks under the hood. 233/239, MS3, 231/237 on a big shot, 240/248, 233/236 and whatever his new setup is now. I know you probvably recognize most of these, but quite possibly Rich has THE smallest but listen to his car, ask him he'll probably let you know.

JacobK

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Im not worried about the turbo since that wont be for a while, and i can always get a new cam. Those are some good suggestions too on what i should get. thanks for the help

JacobK

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Ttt...

Rescue Ranger

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what if you don't change your underwear :/



I did just that. I wanted to go with something a little bigger, but went with a 224/228 on a 113+0 w/ ls6 s2 heads. I can always go bigger later on, but I wanted to see where i'd be at with something like this.

JacobK

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i just kinda wanna make the right choice one time and be done with it.. I dont have the time or experience or money to be swapping out cams and all that.

02WS6Bird

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"Im not worried about the turbo since that wont be for a while, and i can always get a new cam."

your contradicting yourself jake.
Get yourself a cam either the 224/228 or a 224/230 on a 110 or 112. Get yourself a .590 lift and run w/ it. Excellent cruisers, daily's make good mid-low power and rip through the high RPM's to about 6500 i would say. The 224/228 will suit your turbo idea and work well w/ nitrous especially on a 112. the 224/230 will work better on nitrous but the difference wont be much to tell. the Duration on the 224/230 will increase that lopeyness you want due to the extended exhaust duration. Good look man, i know you didndt want to listen before but trust me, being in your boat these 2 cams would be the way to go. the largest i would go would be a 228/236. I'm a fan of 8* splits, much like that of the G5X# cams, but i also prefer cam motion grinds better like futral/TSP. Work well w/ nitrous make great sound and great all motor cams w/ excellent power curves. They appear very custom vs immitation cams. 224/232, 226/234 seem to be very good sized cams for what you are looking. Just keep your intake dur. in the 220s and your exhaust near 230 and youll love it jake trust me the wider LSA will work to fit your needs better too. take my word for it

JacobK

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ttt...

JacobK

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what do you guys think of the G5X3 for me?

99camarosupersport

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tsp 233/239 the cam is amazing and is VERY drivable, i'm also a DD myself. it really surprised me. doesn't surge alot in low rpms, sounds sick as hell, and performs even better. if black02ss reads this i'll let him chime in on what he thinks about it.

JacobK

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see the thing about my car being a DD is kinda not correct, i mean it is my only car, however, everywhere i drive is within a 10 mile radius if even that, so i rarely drive out of that area. Its not like i drive it 40 miles to and back from work in traffic.

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I think you'll be better off with a much smaller, torque producing cam.

02WS6Bird

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Not again

Jake you came out saying you were worried about your high mileage motor from the get-go and how you were afraid the 232/238 was too big and youd spin it too high. The G5X3 is not smaller by any means and chances are youd spin it higher as well. Really man go smaller Alot of people are biased towards the 233/239, and all the cams that everyone sees the Moderators on this board posting about or all the Senior Members around here. It's because nobody is willing to really go out and see what these cars actually like. Notice how every year newer and bigger/better cams come out making more power than the year before- maybe sacrificing the lower end a little to peak that SOB out. Others designed for the street with a mean sound. Even others are STEALTH. the overall size of the cam will effect the Powerband. If you have a cam like the LS1 Hotcam, has a small duration and a tight LSA Sounds alot like larger cams such as the Torquer and the G5X2/3 but has a much smaller powerband much more similar to stock vs those other cams. Even if it is NOT a Daily think of it this way, instead of having to slam it off a light when a mustang w/ full boltons and a gear comes up w/ a punk kid in it, and he decides to take you on cam'd why not just toy with him. ease into it and short shift it taking advantage of the low end and good torque. Hit the next light and leave his *** in the dust.

To be honest with you driving with a big cam isnt the greatest the biggest i would personally buy for cruising would be a G5X3 i would say. 234/242 and thats still pretty steep.your also going to want to be sure that your motor is not gonna sopin to high nore will the cam be so aggressive so that you'll need to swap in some new rod bolts for your high mileage (believe me its not fun for you or the installer- too much liability even if you dont do the install)

Go smaller and just build off of that.Get something that will be much more tame, easier to tune and still give you a nice cruiser and lots of power. No need to go as big as you can cuz chances are it might only dissappoint you.
stick as close to the mid-high 220 and low 230 range as possible, you wont regret it at all! if its not enough power, you can always add heads. if thats not enough- well time to make it a little more interesting N2O

99camarosupersport

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i saw 02ws6bird referred to the 232/238 camshaft. that's technically what mine is, .597/.605 lift on a 112lsa. i also saw you say something about a high mileage engine, no worries friend....i have 140k on the clock. and i honestly see it running for quite a bit longer even with the new cam.

JacobK

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i was just asking about the G5X3 cause there was someone selling one on the boards. im probably gonna end up with the custom grind i wanted initially the 231/237 595/605 112

JakeY2KZ

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Honestly I think the cam that I'm running now is what you're looking for. I've had this cam in the car for close to about 2 yrs now. I had it in when I was running the A4 also. The car pulled really good cam only in the auto. I think I made 370 unlocked with it. Now with the M6 and heads, it pulls alot harder (which I know is due to the heads)The lope sounds amazing even with a quieter exhaust system and it's been easy on my springs since it's a XE cam. I'm still on a stock bottom end, stock oil pump, and stock timing chain and pull to 6600. For a while I was running it up to 6800 and still haven't had any problems.

Personally if you keep it in the 228-230/.595-.600 on a 112 lsa you're going to be happy.

JacobK

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im going nuts with this cam, im soo lost i have no idea what to do, everyone is telling me different things. Cars are sooo frustrating..lol

02WS6Bird

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Jake listen 2 JakeY2K His cam sounds sick and his car is hella fast. Very tame for street driving too i'm sure it makes good power. you dont need a huge cam to make good power. What you need is USEFUL power! not peak power. I'm telling you keep the numbers down, you wont spin your motor too high and itll feel strong @ all times. Also for the record, I have a 98 Z w/ 143K on it put in a cam comperable to the T-Rex custom ground. Putting in new heavy duty rod bolts to handle the abuse of the high RPM