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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by camaross305
so i guess i should go TEA.....im thinking about just getting the stage one....i already have new 921 spring kit.....TEA said they will port my heads to a stage one and assemble it with my spring kit for 800$

This is the deal I would go with!

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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 08:41 PM
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Off all the replies on this thread, that is the best idea I've seen. Do it, no need for TSP's lol. Comparing TEA's to TSP's is like comparing a Corvette to an F-body. They're both killer, but the vette is just better.
Why are the TEA's better? They dont perform better, so what makes them better in your mind?
This is a tr224 vs a fm13. the tr224 has tsp heads and the fm13 has tea, all other mods are almost identical. But you seem to think the car with less power is better : These are mustang dyno numbers


tr224 fm13
rpms hp tq hp tq
2700 - 170, 331 .. 163, 313
2800 - 181, 338 .. 167, 313
2900 - 189, 342 .. 172, 313
3000 - 200, 348 .. 182, 316
3100 - 209, 355 .. 187, 319
3200 - 219, 360 .. 200, 327
3300 - 229, 365 .. 210, 333
3400 - 238, 368 .. 219, 338
3500 - 245, 369 .. 227, 341
3600 - 254, 371 .. 237, 345
3700 - 263, 374 .. 246, 348
3800 - 273, 376 .. 253, 350
3900 - 279, 377 .. 262, 353
4000 - 288, 377 .. 270, 355
4100 - 296, 378 .. 278, 356
4200 - 303, 379 .. 285, 357
4300 - 310, 379 .. 293, 358
4400 - 319, 380 .. 301, 359
4500 - 327, 383 .. 309, 361
4600 - 339, 385 .. 319, 364
4700 - 346, 387 .. 330, 367
4800 - 353, 387 .. 338, 370
4900 - 362, 388 .. 346, 372
5000 - 368, 387 .. 354, 372
5100 - 374, 385 .. 361, 371
5200 - 379, 383 .. 366, 370
5300 - 384, 380 .. 371, 368
5400 - 389, 377 .. 378, 367
5500 - 392, 375 .. 383, 367
5600 - 395, 371 .. 390, 365
better?

And calling one a vette and the other an fbody is retarded. They are both the same 5.3 stock GM head. You can choose the one with less power and more money if you like but I'll never understand why.

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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 99blancoSS
Why are the TEA's better? They dont perform better, so what makes them better in your mind?
This is a tr224 vs a fm13. the tr224 has tsp heads and the fm13 has tea, all other mods are almost identical. But you seem to think the car with less power is better

You really are pushing the TSP heads hard. Why is that?

The post started off with the guy asking about TEA heads not TEA vs TSP heads.


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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 08:59 PM
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Just pushing facts really. If he can get a better deal with better results why am I wrong for saying it? Maybe I wouldnt be as adamant if a few people hadnt been so inaccurate but giving someone advice on a better deal is not a bad thing. I've been there done this with both vendors. One was willing to work with me the other wasnt. So my advice is to get the best deal for your money. And in trying to say that I've had to prove a few people wrong about what they've said.
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 99blancoSS
Your variables are not as big as you think. Both cars were modded almost the exact same and were done within days of each other under identical weather conditions by the same person on the same mustang dyno. One car is a 99 and the other is an 01 is the biggest difference between them. After all the bolts ons and mods they are very close. Tea heads are good but so are Texas Speed so you might as well go with the better deal. I outpull that fm13 w/tea heads by 20hp and tq all the way through the rpms up to 5800 and then it gets close at the peak. Thats all on a mustang dyno.
I think it's safe to say that you have a very strong running car with the mods you have and the HP and TQ numbers you're putting down. In fact I don't think you will see any identical setups making the power and torque you are putting down. That being said, the only valid comparison would be if you did a direct swap, retuned and reported the difference.
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 99blancoSS
Just pushing facts really. If he can get a better deal with better results why am I wrong for saying it? Maybe I wouldnt be as adamant if a few people hadnt been so inaccurate but giving someone advice on a better deal is not a bad thing. I've been there done this with both vendors. One was willing to work with me the other wasnt. So my advice is to get the best deal for your money. And in trying to say that I've had to prove a few people wrong about what they've said.


Your not stating facts in any way, just oponions.
I am a TEA and a TSP dealer so please dont think I support one or the other.
TEA has been in the game longer and has 100's of results like you have posted where they have killed every other company's heads.
AFR has been their biggest competion for years. ETP has joined that list, and TSP is doing a hell of a job geting their name on there as well.
Simple fact is TEA has some of the best LSx casting cylinder heads period. TSP has done their homework and if there not right with TEA that are on their footsteps.
I will however not say TSP has passed TEA by anymeans.
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by 99blancoSS
Why are the TEA's better? They dont perform better, so what makes them better in your mind?

And calling one a vette and the other an fbody is retarded. They are both the same 5.3 stock GM head.
With the consistently great results TEA has had over the years, you are not going to post one dyno comparison and convince me that TSP's are superior. Being the same 5.3 casting is irrelevant. Not sure why you posted that. It's what is done to them that makes the difference.
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 07:52 AM
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Comparing two diff cars with two diff setups proves nothing. At the track this weekend there was a guy with a m6 car, TR224 cam, polished intake so I assume it was a Weiand.....all supporting bolt ons, strange 12 bolt with 4.10s, adjustable tq arm, some type of drag shocks on the front, skinnys and sticky tires.

The guy was pulling 1.8s in the 60ft, so it wasn't that....but my car ran faster than his, and yes it was tuned by a competant tuner, same people that tuned my car.

So what does this prove? That a TR224 cam isn't any good? That the stock cam is better? Nope, just a difference in the cars themselves. Now I do agree that there is def a difference in drivers but he was 60fting quite a bit better than me, yet running a lil slower, 12.6s he said.

I agree with the person that said the only "real" way to know is to swap and retune on YOUR car...that and only that will tell the true story.

Nice numbers btw.
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 12:10 AM
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im hearing a lot of good things about the TEA's...i agree the tsp's are great heads but they are also 1250 ccompared to 800...so if everyone is saying they are very close why not just save 450 and use that toward a 90/90 setup....so i think i may go for the TEA's
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