N/a Or Turbo
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N/a Or Turbo I have an 01 zo6, and am looking to make this vette run. But I am not sure which way to go to make my power. I would like to do this spending the least amount of money, but still be reliable.
My choices are either all motor 427 making about 600rwhp, and a 200+ shot of nitrous. Or the other option would be with forged internals on a 346 (maybe 383) with a turbo setup. either way I am looking for 800+ rwhp, but I want to get there with the least amount of money spent.
suggestions.
My choices are either all motor 427 making about 600rwhp, and a 200+ shot of nitrous. Or the other option would be with forged internals on a 346 (maybe 383) with a turbo setup. either way I am looking for 800+ rwhp, but I want to get there with the least amount of money spent.
suggestions.
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Oh I am familiar with what I will be spending on a stroker motor to get those numbers, but I have not done a lot of research on a turbo setup. I know that I don't need big cubes to get big power from a turbo setup, and I will be doing one or the other.
[QUOTE]300bhp/ton If you don't want to pay don't play, it's that simple
I want to play and I know I have to pay, but figuring out which one costs less is Ideal...
[QUOTE]300bhp/ton If you don't want to pay don't play, it's that simple
I want to play and I know I have to pay, but figuring out which one costs less is Ideal...
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Originally Posted by blown2kss
Oh I am familiar with what I will be spending on a stroker motor to get those numbers, but I have not done a lot of research on a turbo setup. I know that I don't need big cubes to get big power from a turbo setup, and I will be doing one or the other.
I want to play and I know I have to pay, but figuring out which one costs less is Ideal...
I want to play and I know I have to pay, but figuring out which one costs less is Ideal...
Do you already have a suitable chassis for such a power plant?
What sort of fuel are you planning on running?
What's the car going to be used for primarily?
600rwhp n/a is going to be one vicious race setup and personally I wouldn't have thought all that street friendly also a 200 shot is not a stroll in the park if you plan on using it regualarily.
A blown 346ci on pump petrol making 800rwhp IMO would be a tall order. Either way you could expect a large bill at the end of a nights use just for maintance and repair.
I would guess the more reliable setup would be a milder one, so maybe large displacement and FI with maybe a little nitrous on top for when you really need that extra 100bhp or so.
Either setup I think the potential cost is going to be rounded up to the nearest couple of thou so if you have that sort of money to play with I can't see it really mattering which is slightly cheaper, surley the best setup for your intended application is the way to go?
Anyhow good luck with your decision
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If you can buy the Z06 and want to go a 427 or turbo route I am going to assume to can dish out the money to do it right. If thats the case, I vote for a forged 402 done right with a set of AFR 245s, a blower cam and a set of turbos with a nice, big intercooler. Oh, don't forget the new rear and tranny. You may or may not need a 200 shot, but it couldn't hurt 
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thanks for the opinions, and after some further research It looks as if N/A is my best bet.
To get a motor built to handle the boost and get a turbo system to support the power will cost far more than a nitrous setup. Either way I look at it to make the big numbers will require race gas, and will be horrible on the street. Either way I make the power there will have to be multiple settings for street and race. I already spoke with multiple engine builders for the 427 route, and 600rwhp isn't difficult. It will cost a few bucks and have a rough idle, as compared to a smoother running turbo setup. Either one at close to 600rwhp will have little traction on street tires, and N/A is noticably louder than a turbo setup.
To get a motor built to handle the boost and get a turbo system to support the power will cost far more than a nitrous setup. Either way I look at it to make the big numbers will require race gas, and will be horrible on the street. Either way I make the power there will have to be multiple settings for street and race. I already spoke with multiple engine builders for the 427 route, and 600rwhp isn't difficult. It will cost a few bucks and have a rough idle, as compared to a smoother running turbo setup. Either one at close to 600rwhp will have little traction on street tires, and N/A is noticably louder than a turbo setup.
Originally Posted by blown2kss
thanks for the opinions, and after some further research It looks as if N/A is my best bet.
To get a motor built to handle the boost and get a turbo system to support the power will cost far more than a nitrous setup. Either way I look at it to make the big numbers will require race gas, and will be horrible on the street. Either way I make the power there will have to be multiple settings for street and race. I already spoke with multiple engine builders for the 427 route, and 600rwhp isn't difficult. It will cost a few bucks and have a rough idle, as compared to a smoother running turbo setup. Either one at close to 600rwhp will have little traction on street tires, and N/A is noticably louder than a turbo setup.
To get a motor built to handle the boost and get a turbo system to support the power will cost far more than a nitrous setup. Either way I look at it to make the big numbers will require race gas, and will be horrible on the street. Either way I make the power there will have to be multiple settings for street and race. I already spoke with multiple engine builders for the 427 route, and 600rwhp isn't difficult. It will cost a few bucks and have a rough idle, as compared to a smoother running turbo setup. Either one at close to 600rwhp will have little traction on street tires, and N/A is noticably louder than a turbo setup.
If you can afford it - and believe me there is a lot more cost than just a forged bottom end and fancy turbo kit - then do the turbo setup You wont be disapointed if it is done correctly
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thanks; it will definately have lumpy idle, et heads, just under 12:1 compression, huge cam, and hyd roller. I didn't want a solid roller since I would have to adjust the lash, that and it would cost about 4+k more for just a few extra ponies on pump gas. A shot of nitrous will make up for that.
If it were me and i was doing it the cost effective way, id say go big cubes and n20.
If you wanna go even further on a budget, I'd stick with a 408, go forged internals and spray a 200-300 shot.
you can get 550 rwhp out of an NA 408, then add a 200 shot and 750 rwhp and 800+ ft/lbs.
408's will be a couple grand cheaper then a 427 I believe.
I personally love my setup though.
If you wanna go even further on a budget, I'd stick with a 408, go forged internals and spray a 200-300 shot.
you can get 550 rwhp out of an NA 408, then add a 200 shot and 750 rwhp and 800+ ft/lbs.
408's will be a couple grand cheaper then a 427 I believe.
I personally love my setup though.
