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Old May 7, 2006 | 01:53 AM
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I have a double roller timing chaing and a futral ported LS6 oil pump. When we torque down the oil pump, it is touching the timing chain. It is not allowing the motor to crank because the oil pump is contacting the chain.

What can I do? I am in the middle of the cam install in the middle of the night and I have been working on it for two days. What can I do? Calls appreciated!!!!!

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Old May 7, 2006 | 01:54 AM
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We used the old crank gear to seat the new double roller chain. I dont know what else to do? It seems like it can move around easily even after we "seat" it. Am I missing something? I cant find it anywhere online!

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Old May 7, 2006 | 02:11 AM
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You need to use the shims provided with the chain for the pump.
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Old May 7, 2006 | 07:55 AM
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I was going to ask if you used the shims.
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Old May 7, 2006 | 11:17 AM
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what would i do without you guys? I was using the washers as the "spacers..." i'm a ******* idiot... its working now

More questions to come! Valve Springs are next!
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Old May 7, 2006 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by t1blackout
what would i do without you guys? I was using the washers as the "spacers..." i'm a ******* idiot... its working now

More questions to come! Valve Springs are next!

Ohh dear god

don't rush through it and take your time mine has been apart now for over 2 weeks for my h/c install check everything twice or you will pay for it later

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Old May 7, 2006 | 01:22 PM
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Hows it coming along?
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Old May 7, 2006 | 07:01 PM
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Hows it coming along?
Me or t1blackout?
I waiting on fly cutting tools they should be her monday morning!
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Old May 7, 2006 | 08:25 PM
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Both of you... I know its not that easy...
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Old May 7, 2006 | 11:07 PM
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well I only have .020 p/v clearance on the intake running 2.055 valve and a 1.60on the exhaust side 59cc chamber PP ls6 style heads the cam is a ms3 238/242 with a 112 lsa my heads are milled and that only made my clearances worse there’s also a pic of the chain and pump clearance for those that are interested since that what this thread was started for. if anyone has done some fly cutting PM me with some helpful info before I start
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Old May 8, 2006 | 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 01red28
well I only have .020 p/v clearance on the intake running 2.055 valve and a 1.60on the exhaust side 59cc chamber PP ls6 style heads the cam is a ms3 238/242 with a 112 lsa my heads are milled and that only made my clearances worse there’s also a pic of the chain and pump clearance for those that are interested since that what this thread was started for. if anyone has done some fly cutting PM me with some helpful info before I start
Try this "how-to" article on fly cutting........

http://www.forcefedhighperformance.com/tech_Isky.htm

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Old May 8, 2006 | 10:58 AM
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Hows it coming along?
Hey guys I am doing the install with T1blackout. We didn't have all the parts of the kit in one place and didn't bother reading the directions. It was 3am and we should have called it a night about 2hrs before that. Good new is that we didn't hurt anything thanks to manually rotating the crank to find out that it wasn't going to work. So after installing it a 2nd time we were good to go!

We started the install Friday night and finished up at 4am this morning (monday). We fired her up after loading the tune and it was amazing!! All of us were exausted after working so hard and so long, once we got it started we were rediculously happy and proud!

The install wasn't bad at all the worst part is doing the locks on the springs for cyl. #7 & #8. The rest is pretty straight forward!
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Old May 8, 2006 | 03:57 PM
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its ******* awesome... vids to come
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Old May 8, 2006 | 05:27 PM
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good to hear!!!!
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Old May 9, 2006 | 03:33 PM
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I figured i would just throw this in this thread...

When I was installing the new double roller chain it came with a new cam gear which had 4 holes in it, 3 for the cam bolts and 1 for the dowel at the end of the cam to go through. As i put the new cam gear on the end of the cam and began to tighten down i noticed that the cam dowel wasn't just slidding into the camgear hole as it did when i removed the old cam gear. I figured it was just a smaller tolerance. Well i began to tighten down and the cam gear wasn't seating flush to the end of the cam as i spun it. When i went to remove it it wouldn't come off as the dowel was now wedge into the cam gear hole. After using a puller to remove it, the dowel came out of the end of the cam. We then punched it out with a srew driver and since the new dowel was aluminum and not iron like the original it was mangeled. Brent grinded down the newly formed lip on the dowl while i filled out and enlarged the cam gear hole for the dowel. This worked and allowed the cam gear to seat properly. I think Futral and/or Crane (i think it was a crane) should check their dowel or hole specs again....as we lost about 3hrs to this issue.
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