SO who here runs a BIG cam on the street?
05-31-2006, 07:28 PM
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I don't know if my cam is considering big, I would say it is. I haven't really driven it enough yet (still working out issues in degreeing/tuning 
), but it is a street car for sure and it sounds huge. I have the TRak (233/235, .648"/.598", 112), with a 3800 stall.
), but it is a street car for sure and it sounds huge. I have the TRak (233/235, .648"/.598", 112), with a 3800 stall. 
05-31-2006, 10:09 PM
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Thats the beauty of the LS1..you dont need a big cam to make power. Why go bigger when the 224 cam can do just as good without sacraficing anything.
Bigger isnt better for the LS1 motor..its all in the combination.
Bigger isnt better for the LS1 motor..its all in the combination.
05-31-2006, 10:11 PM
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Daily driver with an MS3 here: 237/242 .603/.609 113, matched to a 4k stall speed converter and dumped duals.
Couldn't be happier with the performance and sound.
Couldn't be happier with the performance and sound.
05-31-2006, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by eamador11
Thats the beauty of the LS1..you dont need a big cam to make power. Why go bigger when the 224 cam can do just as good without sacraficing anything.
05-31-2006, 10:31 PM
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Some people care about track results, some people care about dyno numbers, some people care about driveability, some people care about how the cam sounds.
Combine a large cam with high rpm and gears = the win. (as far as drag racing is concerned)
Combine a large cam with high rpm and gears = the win. (as far as drag racing is concerned)
05-31-2006, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ls1muscle
Combine a large cam with high rpm and gears = the win. (as far as drag racing is concerned)
06-01-2006, 09:01 AM
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I am going about as big as I want to with my cam. right now it is my DD. I have about the same power down low at first, but after you open her up a bit she really shines. A great tune can make the world of difference. I went from surging, low idle, and killing my o2's to almost better than stock idle, very minimal surging, and haven't had to replace the o2's.
06-01-2006, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by black01_WS6
I am going about as big as I want to with my cam. right now it is my DD. I have about the same power down low at first, but after you open her up a bit she really shines. A great tune can make the world of difference. I went from surging, low idle, and killing my o2's to almost better than stock idle, very minimal surging, and haven't had to replace the o2's.
06-01-2006, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by eamador11
Thats the beauty of the LS1..you dont need a big cam to make power. Why go bigger when the 224 cam can do just as good without sacraficing anything.
Bigger isnt better for the LS1 motor..its all in the combination.
Bigger isnt better for the LS1 motor..its all in the combination.
BTW, I'm pretty damn sure I would have CRUSHED any NA 224 std comp setup with my TREX back when I was NA.
06-01-2006, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Boostaholic
BTW, I'm pretty damn sure I would have CRUSHED any NA 224 std comp setup with my TREX back when I was NA.
06-01-2006, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by kazfan30
Driveable?........Yes with good tune........Fun to Drive?........depends on person. I personally have drove some T-rex, MS3, and 240+ duration cams and hated them. If i was at the drag strip it probably would have been ok, But i drive my car 95% of the time and take it to the track 5%. I think smaller cams (220-230 range) provide good responsive power for daily driving and pull hard in lower and mid range. And look around PLENTY of 11 sec and faster LS1's with smaller cams. And no matter who tunes it, there will be issues in drivability...just part of the package that comes with huge cams. Look for a PACKAGE that makes Great power and keeps driving fun. Dont just go stick a huge *** cam in an attempt to make the most power possible..........BUT then again, Im biased and still believe people OVERCAM these stock headed stock cubed motors everyday. Good luck hope this may have helped.
06-01-2006, 05:43 PM
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biggest isnt always the best. You cant look at peak numbers and think that higher is always better. You have to pay attention of power under the curve. Also the mods you have will make a difference in the power you make. When i spoke to tsp they told me that a 228r would be a better cam for my car. I was looking at a torquer, and they told me that i would loose down low and make the power way up top, for a shorter amount of rpm unless i spin the motor high. I may dyno a little less, but i will make great power throughout the curve.
06-03-2006, 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by blkZ28spt
Because you ARE sacrificing potential power and peformance with a 224. Go look at the cam only ET lists, you won't see a 224 anywhere near the top, and for good reason. Sure, you can make a lot of power on a 224, but larger cams WILL make more horses. Given a proper combination, all else equal, the larger cam will outrun a 224.
On the track however, go ***** to the wall and get the bigest stick you can stuff in there coz youll spin the motor to 7000rpm all day long.
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06-03-2006, 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by SVT THIS
Guys come on now, EVERYONE knows a 224 with AFR heads will smoke a TRex with ET heads all day long. That's why 10 out of the 15 top cam only drag times were set with 224 cams 
Oh, wait, nevermind. Those were all 240+ cams
Oh, wait, nevermind. Those were all 240+ cams
06-03-2006, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by WS6FirebirdTA00
I dont see why you would wnat a big cam on the street. Chances are you are going to have shitty DCR and the bottom end would suck. For a street car, it would be pointless under a certain rpm, as it woudl feel like stock. The trend for "small" cams is because a big cam wont do much more for you. A proper setup and a smaller cam will make a more powerful car all day long, every rpm range.
gotta love the 224 cam.