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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 06:08 PM
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Default New 402, 135-145psi on compression test?

The cam is a comp XER, 238/244 .605/.612, 112LSA, 2 degrees advanced. Duration at 0.006" is 287/293. The intake valve closes 73.5deg after bottom dead center.

The static compression ratio is 10.9:1, dynamic compression ratio is 8.1:1. I found an online calculator (http://www.rbracing-rsr.com/comprAdvHD.htm) that says my "dynamic cranking pressure" is 162psi.

Next Level Performance (who's tuning it) did a compression test, and got 135-145psi, across the board. That's with the engine cold, and no mileage on it yet, besides the dyno runs.

NLP thinks the compression test is low. FFHP (who built the motor) thinks it's nothing to worry about.

I know the cam overlap and late closing of the intake valve will bleed some pressure off, so I shouldn't expect as high of compression test results as a stock LS1. I also know compression tests give lower results on a cold engine. I do not know if the rings are fully seated, or if perhaps compression will go up after the rings are done seating.

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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 08:03 PM
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Pressures should come up with proper seating and oiling of the rings...
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check your abdc, sounds wrong.
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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Patrick B
check your abdc, sounds wrong.
Check it like measure it somehow, or check what it's supposed to be?

With the cam that's in there, if it's installed straight up (with the 2 degrees of advance that are ground in), the intake valve closes 73.5 degrees ABDC.
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Sounds low to me unless the rings aren't seated yet. Squirt some oil in the cylinder and check it again. I'm putting out 250-260 psi with about the same DCR as you and 11.0 SCR. I also checked mine cold which may read a little lower. How many cycles did you turn the motor over when you checked it? Good cylinder pressure = good HP. How did it do on the dyno?

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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by DanZ28
Sounds low to me unless the rings aren't seated yet. Squirt some oil in the cylinder and check it again. I'm putting out 250-260 psi with about the same DCR as you and 11.0 SCR. I also checked mine cold which may read a little lower. How many cycles did you turn the motor over when you checked it? Good cylinder pressure = good HP.
It was a shop that did it, I don't know exactly what procedure they followed. All I know is the car was cold at the time, and the engine has never been run except on the dyno. Probably 5 dyno pulls total (since the runs they gave me were run 4 & run 5), plus whatever time it was running to get the idle set up.

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How did it do on the dyno?
It did horrible on the dyno (407rwhp), which is why I wanted the compression tested. But, it turned out the cats where clogged. Another pull with open headers yielded 470rwhp. More parts on the way (hi-flow cats, x-pipe), and then they'll finish the dyno tuning.
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