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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 09:18 PM
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In the July 2006 issue of GM High-Tech Performance, page 20.

These new heads have a cc of 65 and are ported (ofcourse).

Valves are 2.02 intake and 1.57 exhaust.

Intake runners are 202cc intake and 83cc exhaust.

Heads flow 300.5 at 600-inch lift and exhaust flow of 216.9 cfm.

Car is stock has lid,filter and Magnaflow exhaust. (STOCK CAM)

My question is how do these heads get 52 more hp ? Is it just porting and bigger valves ? 65cc is the same as ls1 head cc.

If I ported my LS1 heads (241) the same and put the same size valves in, would I get 52 more hp ?
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 09:44 PM
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I wonder if the port design is a little different. I haven't seen them in person, and I hadn't read that issue of GM HT perf, but do the combustion chambers look the same? Are the bowls the same? I could see with those kind of numbers @ 600 lift. Should run pretty good... Not sure 52 hp but it could.
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Old Jun 24, 2006 | 12:08 AM
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edelbrock's been around for years and years and makes some great products. just look at their LS1 headers. i wouldn't doubt it. sounds like a great product. i hope we hear more about these heads.
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Just put a set on my car, they are an extremely nice piece, the cnc work is unbelievable... I didnt get a chance to dyno yet, just put a tune in it to make it idle so i could move it around.. put in a cam to so we'll see what kind of numbers it makes
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Originally Posted by nikon1999
Just put a set on my car, they are an extremely nice piece, the cnc work is unbelievable... I didnt get a chance to dyno yet, just put a tune in it to make it idle so i could move it around.. put in a cam to so we'll see what kind of numbers it makes
Curious to see your results... Hope they works as good as you had hoped.
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the heads are really nice and they do flow those numbers we had them independantly flowed when we did the install, they are a high quality piece, just that Edelbrock was late getting to the market , they did alot of resarch and testing before they released the heads to the public
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Old Jun 24, 2006 | 07:33 PM
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It has two BIG names and I'm sure that it will live up to the Legend that is with those names. Every body was hot on them until the Darts showed up and then everybody stopped talking about them and then reverted to the old standby AFR's. I think everybody is in trouble now that the big bore motors are hitting the streets. We are gonna want bigger valves 'cause we can. Also the L92 heads flow like hell and are cheap as ****. Once the aussie manifold comes available and some of the porters work there magic it'll be a whole new world for us. Also the LS7 heads are in the mix too.
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the heads are really nice and they do flow those numbers we had them independantly flowed when we did the install, they are a high quality piece, just that Edelbrock was late getting to the market , they did alot of resarch and testing before they released the heads to the public

It's Your car in the article, I noticed the nick name!!! I was impressed.
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It's Your car in the article, I noticed the nick name!!! I was impressed.

thanks its my 6 pages of fame...lol
anyone who didnt see it and wants to read it click the link in my sig
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Old Jun 25, 2006 | 05:44 AM
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Nice article chef!
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i worked with Tim on the head install, and they where a very very nice head, i run afr's on my car, however if the Edlbroke where out when i bought heads, i would have bought them in a second over the afr's
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Noyzee
i worked with Tim on the head install, and they where a very very nice head, i run afr's on my car, however if the Edlbroke where out when i bought heads, i would have bought them in a second over the afr's

Why do you prefer the Edelbrok heads over the AFR?
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 05:38 PM
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Aren't the edlebrok heads the same price as the AFR's?
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 10:41 AM
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Why do you prefer the Edelbrok heads over the AFR?
as for the performance end, i dont know which would be better because i never tested them, but i did the install on tims car above with the lpe/edelbrok heads, and the fit and finish was just real real nice. looked to have more time into the cnc, the valve job looked better, ect ect ect over my afr's. if i saw the two side by side and had a choice, i would grab the edlbrok.
just an opinion, but i run afr's, seen them ect, and just installed edelbrok, and i can only go by what i saw, they are very very nice
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 01:22 PM
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I just got a set of 245 edelbrock heads for my 402 set up will post results when i get it dynoed next week if motor install goes well.
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Any UP dates ???
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Originally Posted by wildta
Any UP dates ???
tims car went 11.7 @ 117 with bolt ons, 17" front and rear full size tires, stock tranny, stock rear pretty much full race weight!
it was also 90 degrees out

car has 11.5's easy in full street trim
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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 10:11 PM
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if there a improvement over the stockers like the edelbrock heads on my gen 1 small block (etec220's) then id say these heads would deffinitly be top notch desing and power increase. the heads on my gen 1 gave more hp then any other 2 mods i did to that car.i didnt go big on the cam at all though.
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Noyzee
tims car went 11.7 @ 117 with bolt ons, 17" front and rear full size tires, stock tranny, stock rear pretty much full race weight!
it was also 90 degrees out

car has 11.5's easy in full street trim

Thats dam good!!

Does he still have stock cam ? I'm really liking these heads.

Off the top of my head, I don't think I have ever seen a set of heads with the same compression ratio like the Edelbrock give 54 hp.(GM high tech performance)
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Originally Posted by wildta
Thats dam good!!

Does he still have stock cam ? I'm really liking these heads.

Off the top of my head, I don't think I have ever seen a set of heads with the same compression ratio like the Edelbrock give 54 hp.(GM high tech performance)
no, its a mild custom grind cam stock everything else, and a base line tune, with miss done shift points!!
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