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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 03:14 PM
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Hey everyone..I have two different ideas for a motor I'd like to build by next year. I've done almost everything on my car so far, so building a motor myself is my goal, so i can expand my knowledge and if all goes right, haul some more ***. I've come up with two options. Here they are:

1.) Aluminum 370 (3.622" x 4.03")
This would be built from an LS2 block, bored .030" over. Stock crank, forged rods/pistons, higher (11.5:1-ish) compression, most likely ported LS6 heads/LS6 or Performance Products Typhoon intake, maybe even a L92 setup, depending on what options are available, I still have to spec out the cam, but I'm thinking something around the size of a G5X3/X4. My goal with this is to have a lightweight, high RPM, mostly street motor, every bolt-on. I want to try (yes, the key word is try) to break 500rwhp with this. I think it'd be a nice spray motor, and pretty fun on the highway.

2.) Iron 421/427 (4.125" x 4.03"/4.06")
This would be built using an LQ4/LQ9 iron block, bored .030"/.060" over. 4.125" forged crank, forged rods/pistons, 11.0:1-ish compression, most likely hand-finished AFR's or ET's/Typhoon or FAST, if not some type of L92/LS7 heads/intake or even a sheetmetal intake. As for a cam, I'm thinking 24X/25X, maybe with LSK lobes. My goal with this is to make a lot of power, broad powerband, and have a strong, streetable motor capable of some pretty impressive N/A performance. More expensive, but more potential.

Which would you do? I'd probably spray on top of either one. All input is welcome.
Adam
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 03:18 PM
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No replacement for displacement. L-92 heads with a sheet metal from mizfit. Hello 600+ rwhp.
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 03:45 PM
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I'm leaning towards that. I think I might just keep it at a 421 though...not entirely comfortable with .060" overbore.
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 07:45 PM
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If money is no object than i would go with the second choice bored .030. But if you were wanting to do more of a street/budget build than the ls2, stock stroke setup would be a good choice too just dont bore it .030 b/c the sleeves are too thin to increase the size that much. I think .005 oversize is what most do.
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 09:29 PM
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On an LS2...you can do .030" safely. LS1's can't be bored much.
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 09:42 PM
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Depends on the money situation. Budget, go for 1, big bank hank, go for 2. 4.125 crank will cost you $2k right off the bat, however you could opt for a 4.100 Eagle and be in the $800 range.
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I would go with option number one but with a little bit different route. I'd build it low compression and turbo ready, if not that way, go for number 2.
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370 iron block, with a BIG hit of spray or alotta boooosssstttt!!!!
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Originally Posted by 8banger
Hey everyone..I have two different ideas for a motor I'd like to build by next year. I've done almost everything on my car so far, so building a motor myself is my goal, so i can expand my knowledge and if all goes right, haul some more ***. I've come up with two options. Here they are:

1.) Aluminum 370 (3.622" x 4.03")
This would be built from an LS2 block, bored .030" over. Stock crank, forged rods/pistons, higher (11.5:1-ish) compression, most likely ported LS6 heads/LS6 or Performance Products Typhoon intake, maybe even a L92 setup, depending on what options are available, I still have to spec out the cam, but I'm thinking something around the size of a G5X3/X4. My goal with this is to have a lightweight, high RPM, mostly street motor, every bolt-on. I want to try (yes, the key word is try) to break 500rwhp with this. I think it'd be a nice spray motor, and pretty fun on the highway.

2.) Iron 421/427 (4.125" x 4.03"/4.06")
This would be built using an LQ4/LQ9 iron block, bored .030"/.060" over. 4.125" forged crank, forged rods/pistons, 11.0:1-ish compression, most likely hand-finished AFR's or ET's/Typhoon or FAST, if not some type of L92/LS7 heads/intake or even a sheetmetal intake. As for a cam, I'm thinking 24X/25X, maybe with LSK lobes. My goal with this is to make a lot of power, broad powerband, and have a strong, streetable motor capable of some pretty impressive N/A performance. More expensive, but more potential.

Which would you do? I'd probably spray on top of either one. All input is welcome.
Adam
Well, depends what your gonna want outta your motor.

1.)Typically, an oversquare motor (bore>stroke) will make it's torque higher in the RPM range. More torque at a higher RPM will produce more horsepower as long as you have enough air (and a stable valvetrain $$$) to support it. It would probaby be better to use the LS7/L92 heads on this motor. Problem here is that you'll have to turn it higher, which you really don't wanna do on a street setup.

2.)No replacement for displacement. This will make power at lower RPM so exotic valvetrain isn't as necessary. Definately a better street car setup.
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