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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 05:55 PM
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I drained my oil last week and this was stuck to my drain plug. Thank god its magnetic. I have no clue what it is or where its from. Anyone have any ideas?
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 06:00 PM
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wrist pin or a cam bearing maybe. kind of hard to tell.
is the car making any abnormal noise?
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 06:19 PM
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no noise and appears to be running fine but I'm afraid to beat on it.
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 06:24 PM
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It looks a bit small to be a cam bearing.
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 06:47 PM
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Could possibly be part of a valve seal. I have seen it happen on other engine types.
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 06:49 PM
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It could be part of a valve seal. I have seen it happen on other type engines.
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 07:17 PM
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I dont see how this could happen and the motor still run..... piece of a timing chain link?
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 07:31 PM
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i'm thinking its something from the valve train. If I pull the valve covers off this weekend will I be able to see the valve steam seals from the top.

I have been pushing high rpms, (6700) but i have double valvesprings, and ARP everything..

This forged motor is not even a year old..
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 07:48 PM
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i hate to say it but that looks like cam bearing to me...
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 07:57 PM
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lets say it is the cam bearing, is that an easy fix?
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 08:02 PM
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Unless that piece of paper is about 15 feet wide, I doubt its a cam bearing. I liked the idea of part of a timing chain, but its too big for the rollers that go around each pin. Also, looking at both styles of valveseal, i cant see it coming apart like that. Do you have internal valvespring dampers or are they normal duals? To be honest, it looks to me like something that dosnt belong in an engine...
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 08:42 PM
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Sort of has the shape of a valve keeper, but that is straight up strange. I doubt that's what it is... if it has a lip, it's a possibility. Hard to tell. Keep us posted!
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by GuitsBoy
Unless that piece of paper is about 15 feet wide, I doubt its a cam bearing. I liked the idea of part of a timing chain, but its too big for the rollers that go around each pin. Also, looking at both styles of valveseal, i cant see it coming apart like that. Do you have internal valvespring dampers or are they normal duals? To be honest, it looks to me like something that dosnt belong in an engine...

i think they are normal duals. they are crane duals, I did not put them in, the shop that built my forged motor installed them.

It looks like those 3 little pieces for a circle. i'm not sure what the hell it is.

So for the most part are you guys thinking its something in the heads? if i had a broken valve seal would the car always run rough? My car is a little rough on start up but i think that's more because my tune is way off. same stupid subpar shop tuned my car..
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 09:52 PM
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That sure as hell isn't a wrist pin, and is WAY to small to be a cam bearing, which is about 2" in diameter. It is most likely part of the valvetrain, piece of a rocker, stem seal, or valve lock. Pull the valve covers and inspect thoroughly.
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 10:01 PM
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Jeff, I think it's valvetrain. Look at ALL the rockers and springs real good with a bright light. I think you will find the problem. I wouldn't run the motor anymore until you correct the problem! Andy.
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looks like a vavle lock....
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 11:47 PM
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maybe a piece off of a lifter
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Full-Force
maybe a piece off of a lifter
True, I hadn't considered that, that is another possibility.
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 01:23 AM
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I think it's a spare part your installer dropped in there for you.
There is no notch for it to be a valve spring lock.
Maybe some sort of crush sleeve or a cheap pinky ring but I don't think it belongs in there.

Unless the rollers on our lifters are rings pressed in concentrically (like spagettios), I can't see it being a part of a lifter.
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 01:57 AM
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have you changed oil before this, after your forged internal setup? if so then something valvetrain, if not, looks like they accidentally dropped something...
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