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Old Aug 14, 2006 | 07:45 PM
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How bad is the idle of the GM Hot Cam? Can it be run without computer mods?

I was getting ready to put the 04' Z06 cam in my 04' GTO as it is an easy swap (computer friendly) and available free but i alos have access to the "Hot Cam" and was wondering If one could get away with out mods to the computer?
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Old Aug 14, 2006 | 09:10 PM
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Can it be run without computer mods?


No, you need a dyno tune or it will run like ****. With my hotcam, even with a mail order tune, it still ran like ****.
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 04:18 AM
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Thanks, I figured that but sometimes you need to keep hearing it to convince yourself !!
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 09:27 AM
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I ran mine for over a year on the stock programming. It made 381/373 on the stock programming as well. 6 speed cars will be more forgiving. Idle did bounce around from time to time, and it would surge and buck some.
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 09:31 AM
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you don't HAVE to have it tuned, but its better if you do.
i ran mine for 2 months with it untuned, it did surge sometimes, but ran well enough... with that said, its better to have it tuned.
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 02:36 PM
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Isn't the hot cam just a step above the ls6 cam. I installed the g5x4 cam in my 99 z28 and drove it a month not being tuned. I thought the computer handled it pretty well. I don't see why it would be a big deal to get the car dyno tuned with the hot cam. If you want absolutely every little hp out of the car I can see it being worth the money but if not, I would just have get a tune to suit the mods done to the car.
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by SSCamaro99_3
I ran mine for over a year on the stock programming. It made 381/373 on the stock programming as well. 6 speed cars will be more forgiving. Idle did bounce around from time to time, and it would surge and buck some.
Yeah what he said
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 03:47 PM
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I was trying to go with something that would be easy to work with like no tunning or something that could be corrected with a hand held. I drive the car alot and do not want to mess with it too much. I intend to put a nitrous kit on it and was thinking a little cam can go a long way.
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I just installed the hot cam in my 04 GTO. The car has stock heads and I'm using shortie headers with no cats. After a dyno tune the car made 30+hp and it moved my hp powerband up 1000rpm I have an M6 and drivability was no good without tuning, although I was able to deal with it for a few weeks before the tune. Idle was very lopy without the tune, actually sounded very cool. But the car would stall on hot and cold starts and I couldn't have that on a daily driver. After the tune the heavy lope at idle will turn into a mild lope and drivability went back to stock.
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 06:15 PM
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It will need to be tuned for sure. Mine would run without a tune, but was bad rich and fouled the plugs after about 600 miles.
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 08:17 PM
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i know a guy right now who is running this cam untuned...

so it is possible...so if u dont have the funds to go through with a tune right this minute u can wait for a lil while but dont expect to get the most out of it untuned
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 10:20 PM
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I ran a hotcam for 2 years without a tune. Sometimes it would dive towards stalling when braking to a stop and steering at the same time. It wasn't anything you couldn't handle by modulating the accel pedal. This was with a 6-spd. It's definately sweeter when tuned.
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