The Dragon

iTrader: (6)

That's a matter of opinion

I did a 2 gear motor-only highway pull from 70 - 150 mph yesterday and I hit that speed a LOT quicker than I did with the MS3 in the same circumstances. I short-shifted at 6900 in 3rd, which was only 200 rpm higher than my MS3 shift, so the comparison was pretty straight forward (I used time-stamps in my log to compare the two runs and verify my "butt-ometer )

I actually went that speed quicker with my windows down and WITHOUT my t-tops Last time I did the same pull on the MS3 the tops were on

As much as I LOVED my MS3 cam . . . the MS4 is just better in EVERY way you want to analyze it

N4cer

iTrader: (11)

So those numbers on an LSX lobe puts lift numbers at what?
I'm not totally up on the different lobes. Sorry.

Phil99vette

iTrader: (11)

The lift will be in the 620-630 if memory serves me correctly and switch to the trend pushrods also.

N4cer

iTrader: (11)

Are those different from my TSP hardened pushrods that I'm already running?

KingSS

iTrader: (1)

No, a chromeoly pushrod will be just fine for what you are planning to do. TSP's are definately chromeoly hardened so you should be alright.

Phil99vette

iTrader: (11)

Yes, they are from TSP and offer a thicker wall which helps valvetrain stability with the larger lift lobes. Not all chromoly pushrods are equal.

CRASH Bandicoot

iTrader: (2)

You do not have to flycut the pistons with the ms4.

SVT THIS

iTrader: (27)

I think he meant you will have to flycut the pistons with the Terminator heads, that's what the original poster was asking anyways. The MS4 will not have enough PV clearance with the 200cc Terminators. I would personally go with the MS3, Terminator 200cc and a Fast 90/90 setup. Trmn8or or however you spell his screenname got very close to 500hp with that setup. Yes, some midrange power is down due to the cams size, however, you should still have plenty of torque for it to be fun around town with the 200cc heads and proper compression. Get some 4.10 gears and a good tune and you'll be set. The MS3 has been widely praised as the perfect daily driven "big" cam. If you want a killer street car without sacrificing and drivablity, just spray it.

seawolf18

iTrader: (18)

I saw the results of the MS3 and the Terminator 200cc heads. I was pondering the other day what a Torquer V2 with those heads would pull. I always liked how the torquer's powerband starts at 1800 instead of the 2300 for the MS3, especially for a 90-95% street drivin car.

joblo1978

iTrader: (14)

Yeah, me too as posted earlier.

Maybe someone from TSP can give some insight on this setup, what kind of gains and powerband to expect?

Are the Terminators offered in a h/c "package" from TSP yet? Any plans on doing this?

N4cer

iTrader: (11)

If the Torquer v3 would clear without flycutting, that would be the way to go. But I hear there's a 220cc runner version on the way that will be better. I'm waiting on them.